Another Look at Grace

[Aquila]

Those who demand a legalistic form of "perfection" fail to realize that it often took them years and years to get to where they are in sanctification. Thus... according to their own logic... they were unsaved during all that time.

Sanctification is the process of growing more Christlike through the power of the Holy Ghost... under the protection of and assurance of grace.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Those who demand a legalistic form of "perfection" fail to realize that it often took them years and years to get to where they are in sanctification. Thus... according to their own logic... they were unsaved during all that time.

Sanctification is the process of growing more Christlike through the power of the Holy Ghost... under the protection of and assurance of grace.

Who are those who demand a "legalistic form of perfection"?

Is that the same thing as just quoting the things Jesus said? The things the apostles said? If it is would that not be counting Christ and the apostles as "legalists"?

What words is the legalist using that makes him so false? What does he say that he should not be saying in the new age Christian circles to be counted as a mature Christian?

[soopy]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

What words is the legalist using that makes him so false? What does he say that he should not be saying in the new age Christian circles to be counted as a mature Christian?

I believe that a mature Christian stops witnessing, and becomes a witness; over making proclamations at people in an attempt to convert them. One can do great just volunteering at the soup kitchen or whatever, 30-40 hours a week, and getting their needs met in alternative ways. No paycheck.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Who are those who demand a "legalistic form of perfection"?

Is that the same thing as just quoting the things Jesus said? The things the apostles said? If it is would that not be counting Christ and the apostles as "legalists"?

What words is the legalist using that makes him so false? What does he say that he should not be saying in the new age Christian circles to be counted as a mature Christian?

Michael, why are you defending legalism if you're not a legalist?

It's a spirit.

Obedience to Christ's teachings increases as one learns about them and surrenders to them. This is the process of sanctification. It's not to earn salvation. It's to perfect those who are already saved by an amazing grace.