Newborns & Children go to hell?! What does the Bib

MarcBee · #1 06-16-2013, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

The question is: "How can the traditional definition of hellfire be true, considering the power, and the nature of the Father?" I have no problem with questioning the traditional interpretations and translations.

So, let's reinterpret, retranslate, or re-whatever it takes to have a more palatable god (or maybe one more like the nicer side of Jesus, yet who said he was One with Yahweh.) If that's necessary to do, doesn't that mean such a god was either uncaring about how he is represented in the existing scriptures, or maybe is lacking in omnipotence and omniscience? Whichever the scenario, what basis would remain to believe anything as written or delivered?

soopy · #2 06-16-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MarcBee

So, let's reinterpret, retranslate, or re-whatever it takes to have a more palatable god (or maybe one more like the nicer side of Jesus, yet who said he was One with Yahweh.) If that's necessary to do, doesn't that mean such a god was either uncaring about how he is represented in the existing scriptures, or maybe is lacking in omnipotence and omniscience? Whichever the scenario, what basis would remain to believe anything as written or delivered?

well, the truth that remains in what is written, if not delivered--which is most probably that Scripture is fine, it is just the common understanding of it that is generally deficient? One need go no further for there explanation of 'eternal damnation' than 1 Sam 28:19 "Moreover the LORD will also give over Israel along with you into the hands of the Philistines, therefore tomorrow you and your sons will be with me..." when Samuel is obviously not in damnation?

crakjak · #3 06-16-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by soopy

well, the truth that remains in what is written, if not delivered--which is most probably that Scripture is fine, it is just the common understanding of it that is generally deficient? One need go no further for there explanation of 'eternal damnation' than 1 Sam 28:19 "Moreover the LORD will also give over Israel along with you into the hands of the Philistines, therefore tomorrow you and your sons will be with me..." when Samuel is obviously not in damnation?

Very good logic!!!

crakjak · #4 06-19-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by soopy

well, the truth that remains in what is written, if not delivered--which is most probably that Scripture is fine, it is just the common understanding of it that is generally deficient? One need go no further for there explanation of 'eternal damnation' than 1 Sam 28:19 "Moreover the LORD will also give over Israel along with you into the hands of the Philistines, therefore tomorrow you and your sons will be with me..." when Samuel is obviously not in damnation?

Nor was Saul, nor is sons burning is hell, they were with Samuel, that should be instructive to the "fire and brimstoners".