Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Charnock

So now your pastor is a fool? Nice.

My Pastor doesn't demand I show up nor does he call me selfish, but then again he isn't a judgmental pharisee either. So clearly I was not talking about my Pastor..

I do get what is happening though. I pointed out the truth that people feel alienated in those "service" and somehow hearing that truth has rocked some people's utopian boat. You don't want to know or hear about it because it might require being a Christian and having some sensitivity to your brothers and sisters in Christ who are hurting. But the best some can muster up is vitriol and attacks.

It really does reveal the state of "the church" in America when you can't consider ways to minister to your own brothers and sisters.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

My Pastor doesn't demand I show up nor does he call me selfish, but then again he isn't a judgmental pharisee either. So clearly I was not talking about my Pastor..

I do get what is happening though. I pointed out the truth that people feel alienated in those "service" and somehow hearing that truth has rocked some people's utopian boat. You don't want to know or hear about it because it might require being a Christian and having some sensitivity to your brothers and sisters in Christ who are hurting. But the best some can muster up is vitriol and attacks.

It really does reveal the state of "the church" in America when you can't consider ways to minister to your own brothers and sisters.

I get what you're saying Prax, and don't want to jump on the bandwagon.....but, if I were to carry your logic out a bit further, i.e., I'm not a father, so I won't go on Father's' Day, and I'm not a Mother, so I won't go on Mother's Day, and I'm not a young person, so I'll skip youth service.....what do you do when your pastor preaches to sinners?

And, I'm not trying to be flippant, but in a service geared towards unsaved people, do you go to support them?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I get what you're saying Prax, and don't want to jump on the bandwagon.....but, if I were to carry your logic out a bit further, i.e., I'm not a father, so I won't go on Father's' Day, and I'm not a Mother, so I won't go on Mother's Day, and I'm not a young person, so I'll skip youth service.....what do you do when your pastor preaches to sinners?

And, I'm not trying to be flippant, but in a service geared towards unsaved people, do you go to support them?

I pray for them and support the gospel message. BTW I dont go to the youth service because its on the same night as the adult class, but I might slip in and hear a message that is relevant to everyone despite being preached to youth and thn pray for someone that is new and praying for the Holy Spirit.

But again that is apples and oranges because you are comparing a PROGAM to a SERVICE...

See? There is a huge difference between sitting through an hour long parade of pictures, videos and gift give aways
All about Father and have people feel alienated because their fathers are dead, in prison or just gone and a service ministering to sinners. Thats church! Thats why many of us go! Thats not an accurate comparson.

Can I ask why people are so upset that I stay home instead? Thats amazing to me that because I posted the truth that people feel alienated and I get atacked. I admit I often stay home and people attack me personally. Doesn't that bother you?

I never said not to have anything for dads. In fact I said lets do that and include those that are not fathers or dont have fathers...the result again was to be attacked...

Seriously I dont know whether to laugh at how many have an "I dont care" attitude or be sad that we call ourselves Christians doing it.

As I said its possible to have our program AND have an actual church service or some how minister to them.

This goes beyond fathers day. People suffer depression and loneliness during Christmas and other holidays where families all get together and forget about thosd without. A solution would be to invite them and love them too..

I am reminded of another verse now

James 1:27 ESV

Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.

Thats an attitude we should all have, one that is considerate
of those in our midst.