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Old 06-17-2013, 03:01 PM
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Barb Im sorry for offending you.

I am also bothered at how some here have attacked me for pointing out people feel alienated and that I often dont go anymore because its not a service anymore.

I don't understand that
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:30 PM
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Barb Im sorry for offending you.

I am also bothered at how some here have attacked me for pointing out people feel alienated and that I often dont go anymore because its not a service anymore.

I don't understand that
Apology accepted.

Church services as a whole have changed for sure, but regarding the subject of your thread, I'm not so sure an occasional program is wrong.

I remember when I was a young'un my momma started a children's choir...not very popular in the late '50s. So because 'some' folks thought it was just a kids thing, the pastor would only let us sing for special occasions. But here's the deal...

The father of one of the saints was an unsaved elderly gentlemen who only came once a year to hear mom's little choir.

You see, mom taught us more than The Birdie With the Yellow Bill...we learned 3 part harmony and sang song like How Big Is God and He Lives...songs with meat and potatoes on them. That man came back year after year to receive a message he wouldn't otherwise sit for.

Too bad he only came at Easter and Christmas for a program.

I guess I'm saying this subject is broader than the brush any of us, not just you, but any of us are painting with. There's a lot to be considered on all sides...
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Apology accepted.

Church services as a whole have changed for sure, but regarding the subject of your thread, I'm not so sure an occasional program is wrong.

I remember when I was a young'un my momma started a children's choir...not very popular in the late '50s. So because 'some' folks thought it was just a kids thing, the pastor would only let us sing for special occasions. But here's the deal...

The father of one of the saints was an unsaved elderly gentlemen who only came once a year to hear mom's little choir.

You see, mom taught us more than The Birdie With the Yellow Bill...we learned 3 part harmony and sang song like How Big Is God and He Lives...songs with meat and potatoes on them. That man came back year after year to receive a message he wouldn't otherwise sit for.

Too bad he only came at Easter and Christmas for a program.

I guess I'm saying this subject is broader than the brush any of us, not just you, but any of us are painting with. There's a lot to be considered on all sides...
Thank you. As I said Im ok with a program but its possible to have as program and a regular service all in one
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Thank you. As I said Im ok with a program but its possible to have as program and a regular service all in one
What do you consider a "regular service?"
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What do you consider a "regular service?"
Preaching and altar call, testimonies etc...what you probably usually have
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What do you consider a "regular service?"
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Preaching and altar call, testimonies etc...what you probably usually have
I'm not trying to pick at you or belabor this point, but the question arises...

Does the lack of any of these things mean we haven't had a regular service?
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I'm not trying to pick at you or belabor this point, but the question arises...

Does the lack of any of these things mean we haven't had a regular service?
Possibly. I mean from what I read a church meeting is about worshiping God, His word, prayer and ministering to various needs of the and sinners. Thats the goal.

Clearly you can see the difference between programs and a servics right?

Is a Christmas banquet a church service? A birthday party for the Pastor!

I don't believe so, not a regular one or beyond regular. Regular means usual or common. What we normally do

But the point is that we can have our programs AND have a message instead of just a slide show, gifts for fathers etc etc...

Or have their programs and hope the visitors come back next time to hear the word and not trash (as in this thread) those that feel alienated.
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