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Old 06-21-2013, 09:39 AM
Nitehawk013 Nitehawk013 is offline
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Re: Newborns & Children go to hell?! What does the

Yet you think to grant eternal reward to a soul that sins is not psychotic to you? You do not respect the Holiness of God. You fail to understand that God is Holy to a degree we cannot wrap our heads around. He IS holiness. He will not therefore tolerate sin in any degree to stand before him. There is no alternative but for sin, and it's partakers, than to be cast from Him for eternity. He will not suddenly change and allow sin in his presence. He cannot. It is contrary to HIM.

If one is not covered by the blood of Christ, having put on Christ in baptism, then you have only your own righteousness, which is rags. You are not sinless and cannot therefore enter heaven. The only reason we, the imperfect vessels we are, can enter Heaven is because we put on Christ and His perfection. That is our only hope.

This idea that one can die havign never put on Christ, then spend what amounts to a second in eternity's vastness in the fire of hell, then just say "oh Im sorry" and get a pass out of the fire and into heaven is nonsense. Such "repentance" isn't sorrow for ones sin. It is sorrow for getting caught and having to pay the price. It is like the murderer who coldly rejects authority and calls to express remorse, yet when the judge says "Guilty" suddenly they weep and break down. There is no sorrow for what they have done, only for the fact that now they must pay the price for their wrongs.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:03 PM
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Re: Newborns & Children go to hell?! What does the

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Yet you think to grant eternal reward to a soul that sins is not psychotic to you? You do not respect the Holiness of God. You fail to understand that God is Holy to a degree we cannot wrap our heads around. He IS holiness. He will not therefore tolerate sin in any degree to stand before him. There is no alternative but for sin, and it's partakers, than to be cast from Him for eternity. He will not suddenly change and allow sin in his presence. He cannot. It is contrary to HIM.

If one is not covered by the blood of Christ, having put on Christ in baptism, then you have only your own righteousness, which is rags. You are not sinless and cannot therefore enter heaven. The only reason we, the imperfect vessels we are, can enter Heaven is because we put on Christ and His perfection. That is our only hope.

This idea that one can die havign never put on Christ, then spend what amounts to a second in eternity's vastness in the fire of hell, then just say "oh Im sorry" and get a pass out of the fire and into heaven is nonsense. Such "repentance" isn't sorrow for ones sin. It is sorrow for getting caught and having to pay the price. It is like the murderer who coldly rejects authority and calls to express remorse, yet when the judge says "Guilty" suddenly they weep and break down. There is no sorrow for what they have done, only for the fact that now they must pay the price for their wrongs.
How can the eternal torture of a 15 year old pagan girl who never heard the Gospel be "holy"?

If that's true of God, I have more compassion towards my own children than such a God would. He couldn't be trusted with them.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:55 PM
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Yet you think to grant eternal reward to a soul that sins is not psychotic to you?
Me? I didn't claim anything about your supposed injustice concerning letting the guilty go free. But now that you bring it up, consider that the criminal justice system in USA is more or less built around the belief that to allow a possibly (but not provably) guilty party to "get off" is more JUST (not psychotic) than to possibly incriminate/punish the innocent. Do you agree with that concept, as far as human affairs go?

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Yet you think to grant eternal reward to a soul that sins...
So please inform us which souls receiving an eternal reward will NOT have been a "soul that sins." I thought according to the NT writers, everyone would have been a "soul that sins" except the one who was the propitiatory sacrifice for those sins.
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