George Zimmerman's Ethnicity?

[n david]

The church my father pastored had a majority of white people. He's not racist. We did the door to door invitations on Saturdays and invited anyone and everyone we came in contact with, including other races.

The first black couple we had to come to our church and later join the church, stated that after they came, their former pastor (who was black) came to their home to visit them. He told them he was concerned by their leaving to join a "white church"; that they needed to "stick together" with "their own folk" and worship. He said the church my father pastored was racist and didn't like blacks; which, he reasoned, was why they were the only black couple in the church. He said the "white church" wasn't good enough to address the issues black folk face.

In testimony of the man's character, he stood up, thanked his former pastor for coming and told him he didn't appreciate his characterization of the church; that he found no evidence which backed up the pastors claims. He noted that the man never once met or spoke with my father.

I guess you can say we experienced a different kind of racism.

The school I went to was an ACE school our church administered. It was open only to the members of our church. As such, it had a majority of white kids. Doesn't mean the church, my parents or myself are racist.

I married a white girl. I dated mostly white girls, although I did date a Hispanic girl and a Vietnamese girl. Even absent dating the Hispanic and Vietnamese girls, I wouldn't be racist for dating white girls.

I grew up in a neighborhood with mostly white neighbors. Does that make my family or I racist -- absolutely not!

I resent the comment that because of the above I'm "part of the problem and not the solution." It's absurd.

The church I'm involved in now is majority Hispanic. The Pastor and most of the members are Hispanic. My family (wife, child and I) are among the only white people there. Is my pastor racist for not having more white or black members? Absolutely not!

I fellowship with a local PAW church nearby; attending their special services and some Sunday evening services. Most of the time I'm the only white person in that church. I love that church and Pastor, they've welcomed me every time I've visited. Is that Pastor racist for not having a single white or Hispanic member? Not from my experience with this man or his church.

I could go on and on, but won't. The statement is just absurd.

[Titus2woman]

I am not saying that you are racist if you did not marry outside your race. I am saying you are racist if you would not have dated outside your race and if you did not know anyone of another race to even consider in that decision then your parents were probably racist.

It amazes me how many people say they are not racist but in reality they have no family or friends of another race. In a country that has included all races for generations, actually since it's inception as a country.... really?

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by n david

The church my father pastored had a majority of white people. He's not racist. We did the door to door invitations on Saturdays and invited anyone and everyone we came in contact with, including other races.

The first black couple we had to come to our church and later join the church, stated that after they came, their former pastor (who was black) came to their home to visit them. He told them he was concerned by their leaving to join a "white church"; that they needed to "stick together" with "their own folk" and worship. He said the church my father pastored was racist and didn't like blacks; which, he reasoned, was why they were the only black couple in the church. He said the "white church" wasn't good enough to address the issues black folk face.

In testimony of the man's character, he stood up, thanked his former pastor for coming and told him he didn't appreciate his characterization of the church; that he found no evidence which backed up the pastors claims. He noted that the man never once met or spoke with my father.

I guess you can say we experienced a different kind of racism.

The school I went to was an ACE school our church administered. It was open only to the members of our church. As such, it had a majority of white kids. Doesn't mean the church, my parents or myself are racist.

I married a white girl. I dated mostly white girls, although I did date a Hispanic girl and a Vietnamese girl. Even absent dating the Hispanic and Vietnamese girls, I wouldn't be racist for dating white girls.

I grew up in a neighborhood with mostly white neighbors. Does that make my family or I racist -- absolutely not!

I resent the comment that because of the above I'm "part of the problem and not the solution." It's absurd.

The church I'm involved in now is majority Hispanic. The Pastor and most of the members are Hispanic. My family (wife, child and I) are among the only white people there. Is my pastor racist for not having more white or black members? Absolutely not!

I fellowship with a local PAW church nearby; attending their special services and some Sunday evening services. Most of the time I'm the only white person in that church. I love that church and Pastor, they've welcomed me every time I've visited. Is that Pastor racist for not having a single white or Hispanic member? Not from my experience with this man or his church.

I could go on and on, but won't. The statement is just absurd.

Yes you did.

No you wouldn't

Why do you feel my comments are directed at YOU?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Why do you feel my comments are directed at YOU?

Because if you do these things, chances are you are part of the problem, not the solution and no amount of saying how you believe that people are equal will change that.

I think that's directed at anyone who didn't meet the criteria above that statement, not just me; as evidenced by others who have had the response I had.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by n david

I think that's directed at anyone who didn't meet the criteria above that statement, not just me; as evidenced by others who have had the response I had.

You think wrong... But people always get defensive when doing self examination.... then they usually get honest... it's a process.

Oh and actually by your own admission... you did meet the criteria as you HAVE dated outside your race. One does not have to date the darkest person they can find or even someone a shade darker... they just have to have been willing.

Speaking of shades of darkness... even among Hispanics and Blacks there is what I call a 'light-superiority' thing going... light skin being preferable to dark... humm...

And back on topic... I think that's where the Zimmerman race thing come in... he is 'whiter' than Martin... which to the racist black makes him white.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Oh and actually by your own admission... you did meet the criteria as you HAVE dated outside your race. One does not have to date the darkest person they can find or even someone a shade darker... they just have to have been willing.

Even without dating them, I still reject your claim. I didn't date those ladies until I was in my mid-late 20s. In my youth and young adult life I dated white girls who were either blonde or brunette. I suppose that makes me prejudiced against redheads. Shame on me for not being open to dating a redhead.