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Old 07-05-2013, 08:22 PM
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If there is an acquittal, if there is a protest that is peaceful in the Sanford-Orlando area, I will be there.

For me, this has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment.

I'll say again, a full acquittal in this situation will open the door for "legalized" gun-toting vigilantism-- as long as you kill the subject and as long as there aren't any witnesses to say otherwise, you can do what you want under the guise of "neighborhood watch".
If he is acquitted, the jury decided and everyone should accept it.

If you go to a peaceful protest, knowing this thing was racially stoked by Al Sharpton and the Mayor, then you are promoting racism yourself.

Rioting does more to hurt the outraged and innocent than the target of the anger.
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If he is acquitted, the jury decided and everyone should accept it.

If you go to a peaceful protest, knowing this thing was racially stoked by Al Sharpton and the Mayor, then you are promoting racism yourself.

Rioting does more to hurt the outraged and innocent than the target of the anger.
Nope, you're wrong.
I have the right to peaceful protest and protesting in this situation wouldn't be racism in the least bit.

There isn't any one being denied anything systematically or institutionally because I decide to participate in peaceful protest of this three-ring circus of a trial.


If there is a conviction, I will be sated.

Read the clip, he did apply to be a cop and he did have at one time aspirations to be a cop.

In fact, Dan Newlin, popular lawyer here in central Florida, also started out as a Sheriffs Deputy.
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You forget that the widespread protests all across this country, before there was a trial, was not defined by their race. It was people of all races who saw the potential of a grave injustice deciding to protest.

It was spontaneous.

It was not organized on a national level.

On the other side of this case, there are A LOT of people who believe, even with the facts that have been presented so far, that the AGGRESSOR should not have legal protection to kill, under "self-defense" or SYG.

For me, and for countless others, this is the rub-- this is what stinks.
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You forget that the widespread protests all across this country, before there was a trial, was not defined by their race. It was people of all races who saw the potential of a grave injustice deciding to protest.

It was spontaneous.

It was not organized on a national level.

On the other side of this case, there are A LOT of people who believe, even with the facts that have been presented so far, that the AGGRESSOR should not have legal protection to kill, under "self-defense" or SYG.

For me, and for countless others, this is the rub-- this is what stinks.
Sharpton, TM's dad, the Mayor and MSM took the stage on March 22, 2012. Don't tell me this wasn't organized on a national level.

There is a video posted on this thread where Sharpton is interviewing the Defense attorney, O'Mara. Sharpton is explaining why they took it national. Please! I love ya man, but you don't check your sources and don't dig very deep before you comment. Help our country, unite with the facts and truth.
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Sharpton, TM's dad, the Mayor and MSM took the stage on March 22, 2012. Don't tell me this wasn't organized on a national level.
The demonstrations surrounding the Trayvon Martin tragedy are widespread, racially and regionally diverse, and not organized by one specific entity.


There are many, many people who agree with me with the following two points.

"Self defense" is not a valid legal argument to kill someone when you are the aggressor.

Racial profiling played a role in the death of this 17 year old
.




Anchorage, AK
http://www.adn.com/2012/04/07/241255...n-rallies.html

Kennewick,WA
http://www.keprtv.com/news/local/Ken...146568215.html

Seattle, WA
http://mynorthwest.com/11/653240/Sea...Trayvon-Martin

Portland, OR
http://www.oregonlive.com/news-netwo...y_for_tra.html

San Francisco, CA
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1383229.html

Los Angeles, CA
http://fusicology.com/blog/2012/03/2...rayvon-martin/

San Bernadino, CA
http://sbsun.mycapture.com/mycapture...oryID=0&view=1

San Diego, CA
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...rayvon-martin/

Sacramento, CA
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/...rayvon-martin/

Fresno, CA
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/video?id=8610535

Phoenix, AZ
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...trayvon-martin

Tucson, AZ
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/1...sonnewsnow.com

Salt Lake City, UT
http://fox13now.com/2012/03/31/utahn...rayvon-martin/

Idaho Falls, ID
http://www.localnews8.com/news/Idaho...k/-/index.html

Reno, NV
http://www.mynews4.com/news/story/Tr...rSJuHGCSA.cspx

Las Vegas, NV
http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/144180375.html

Denver, CO
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...trayvon-martin

Colorado Springs, CO
http://www.krdo.com/news/Colorado-Sp...j/-/index.html

Las Cruces, NM
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-770153

Des Moines, IA
http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/mor...871e3ce6c.html

Davenport, IA
http://westscottcounty.wqad.com/news...trayvon-martin

New Orleans, LA
http://www.wdsu.com/New-Orleans-Stud...z/-/index.html

Shreveport, LA
http://www.wafb.com/story/17338817/p...type=printable

Baton Rouge, LA
http://www.murdertrial.org/article51...von_martin.htm

Winston-Salem, NC
http://www.journalnow.com/news/local...8cb6cb7c1.html

Greensboro, NC
http://www.digtriad.com/news/article...Trayvon-Martin

Raleigh, NC
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/03/...tml&gid_index=

Durham, NC
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article...vigil-soundoff

Pembrooke, NC
http://www.robesonian.com/pages/full...20&id=18043462

Charlotte, NC
http://www.wcnc.com/news/Hundreds-ga...144122005.html

Myrtle Beach, SC
http://www.carolinalive.com/director...3#.UdhH_HPn9kQ

Charleston, SC
http://www.live5news.com/story/17259...trayvon-martin

Florence, AL
http://www.timesdaily.com/archives/a...4c6e6ef64.html

Savannah, GA
http://www.wsav.com/story/21207587/g...trayvon-martin

Hinesville, GA
http://www.wsav.com/story/21207675/p...trayvon-martin

Oklahoma City, OK
http://newsok.com/oklahomans-protest...rticle/3660806

Dallas, TX
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012...-rally-o.html/
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfa...es_trayvon.php

Lubbock, TX
http://www.myfoxlubbock.com/mostpopu...PJQAS-5kg.cspx

Austin, TX
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-767616

Houston, TX
http://thehispanicblog.com/2012/03/2...rtin-movement/

Jackson, MS
http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news...rayvon-martin/

Hattiesburg, MS
http://www.studentprintz.com/nation-...5#.UdhGMnPn9kQ

St. Louis, MO
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Prote...144060366.html


Kansas City, MO

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_n...-city-missouri

Allentown, KS
http://www.kwch.com/videogallery/690...n-in-Allentown

Indianopolis, IN
http://www.examiner.com/article/tray...t-indianapolis

South Bend, IN
http://www.abc57.com/news/Local-prot...144065006.html

Minneapolis, MN
http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/20...cial-profiling

http://www.startribune.com/local/min...144984745.html

St. Cloud, MN
http://utvsnewsnow.com/?p=13016

Lacrosse, WI
http://lacrossetribune.com/news/loca...a4bcf887a.html

Milwaukee, WI
http://www.fightbacknews.org/2012/4/...lwaukee-police

Madison, WI
http://wibailoutpeople.org/2012/03/2...rison-protest/

Janesville, WI
http://csi.nethopper.net/multimedia/...sville-sp-6189

Grand Forks, ND
http://und.edu/calendar/index.php/vi...igil-and-march

Saginaw, MI
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/in..._for_tray.html

Lafayette, MI
http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/a...4010802&Ref=PH

Ann Arbor, MI
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/vigil-held

Little Rock, AR
http://www.fox16.com/mostpopular/sto...HWxd8UDPQ.cspx

Mahoning County, OH
http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/mar/3...purpose/?print

Cleveland, OH
http://www.clevelandurbannews.com/in...trayvon-martin

Huntington, WV
http://www.acluwv.org/pdfs/Trayvon%20Flyer.pdf

Petersburg, VA
http://www.wistv.com/story/17304849/...-in-petersburg

Chesterfield, VA
http://www.wlox.com/story/17213700/v...hot-in-florida

Blacksburg, VA
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stori...ch-for-trayvon

Memphis, TN
http://www.nbc12.com/story/17260826/...-martins-honor

Clarksville, TN
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/17...trayvon-martin

Boston, MA
http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas..._case_protest/

Providence, RI
http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Oli...&view=ZW50aXR5

Burlington, VT
http://www.wcax.com/story/17270943/t...-in-burlington

Durham, NH
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion..._against_death

Wilkes-Barre, PA
http://citizensvoice.com/news/local-...teen-1.1294121

Philadelphia, PA
http://hot1079philly.com/2906865/tra...-at-love-park/

Pittsburgh, PA
http://thetartan.org/2012/4/2/news/trayvonrally

Albany, NY
http://www.news10.com/story/17331988...trayvon-martin

Syracuse, NY
http://utica-mohawkvalley.ynn.com/co...-wear-hoodies/

Trenton, NJ
http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...test_shoo.html

Annapolis, MD
http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/a...1e1bf7c35.html




Demonstrations outside of the continental US and internationally

St. Croix, Virgin Islands
http://tunuptv.com/videos/st-croix-m...christiansted/

Ramstein, Germany
http://www.stripes.com/news/ramstein...artin-1.173464

Toronto, Canada
http://allevents.in/Toronto/TORONTO-...63617120391250

Vancouver, British Columbia
http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/The+N...ID/2218188736/

London, England
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...in-london.html

Paris, France
http://www.flickr.com/photos/efferlecebe/7013798413/
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The demonstrations surrounding the Trayvon Martin tragedy are widespread, racially and regionally diverse, and not organized by one specific entity.


There are many, many people who agree with me with the following two points.

"Self defense" is not a valid legal argument to kill someone when you are the aggressor.

Racial profiling played a role in the death of this 17 year old
.




Anchorage, AK
http://www.adn.com/2012/04/07/241255...n-rallies.html

Kennewick,WA
http://www.keprtv.com/news/local/Ken...146568215.html

Seattle, WA
http://mynorthwest.com/11/653240/Sea...Trayvon-Martin

Portland, OR
http://www.oregonlive.com/news-netwo...y_for_tra.html

San Francisco, CA
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1383229.html

Los Angeles, CA
http://fusicology.com/blog/2012/03/2...rayvon-martin/

San Bernadino, CA
http://sbsun.mycapture.com/mycapture...oryID=0&view=1

San Diego, CA
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...rayvon-martin/

Sacramento, CA
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/...rayvon-martin/

Fresno, CA
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/video?id=8610535

Phoenix, AZ
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...trayvon-martin

Tucson, AZ
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/1...sonnewsnow.com

Salt Lake City, UT
http://fox13now.com/2012/03/31/utahn...rayvon-martin/

Idaho Falls, ID
http://www.localnews8.com/news/Idaho...k/-/index.html

Reno, NV
http://www.mynews4.com/news/story/Tr...rSJuHGCSA.cspx

Las Vegas, NV
http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/144180375.html

Denver, CO
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...trayvon-martin

Colorado Springs, CO
http://www.krdo.com/news/Colorado-Sp...j/-/index.html

Las Cruces, NM
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-770153

Des Moines, IA
http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/mor...871e3ce6c.html

Davenport, IA
http://westscottcounty.wqad.com/news...trayvon-martin

New Orleans, LA
http://www.wdsu.com/New-Orleans-Stud...z/-/index.html

Shreveport, LA
http://www.wafb.com/story/17338817/p...type=printable

Baton Rouge, LA
http://www.murdertrial.org/article51...von_martin.htm

Winston-Salem, NC
http://www.journalnow.com/news/local...8cb6cb7c1.html

Greensboro, NC
http://www.digtriad.com/news/article...Trayvon-Martin

Raleigh, NC
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/03/...tml&gid_index=

Durham, NC
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article...vigil-soundoff

Pembrooke, NC
http://www.robesonian.com/pages/full...20&id=18043462

Charlotte, NC
http://www.wcnc.com/news/Hundreds-ga...144122005.html

Myrtle Beach, SC
http://www.carolinalive.com/director...3#.UdhH_HPn9kQ

Charleston, SC
http://www.live5news.com/story/17259...trayvon-martin

Florence, AL
http://www.timesdaily.com/archives/a...4c6e6ef64.html

Savannah, GA
http://www.wsav.com/story/21207587/g...trayvon-martin

Hinesville, GA
http://www.wsav.com/story/21207675/p...trayvon-martin

Oklahoma City, OK
http://newsok.com/oklahomans-protest...rticle/3660806

Dallas, TX
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012...-rally-o.html/
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfa...es_trayvon.php

Lubbock, TX
http://www.myfoxlubbock.com/mostpopu...PJQAS-5kg.cspx

Austin, TX
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-767616

Houston, TX
http://thehispanicblog.com/2012/03/2...rtin-movement/

Jackson, MS
http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news...rayvon-martin/

Hattiesburg, MS
http://www.studentprintz.com/nation-...5#.UdhGMnPn9kQ

St. Louis, MO
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Prote...144060366.html


Kansas City, MO

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_n...-city-missouri

Allentown, KS
http://www.kwch.com/videogallery/690...n-in-Allentown

Indianopolis, IN
http://www.examiner.com/article/tray...t-indianapolis

South Bend, IN
http://www.abc57.com/news/Local-prot...144065006.html

Minneapolis, MN
http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/20...cial-profiling

http://www.startribune.com/local/min...144984745.html

St. Cloud, MN
http://utvsnewsnow.com/?p=13016

Lacrosse, WI
http://lacrossetribune.com/news/loca...a4bcf887a.html

Milwaukee, WI
http://www.fightbacknews.org/2012/4/...lwaukee-police

Madison, WI
http://wibailoutpeople.org/2012/03/2...rison-protest/

Janesville, WI
http://csi.nethopper.net/multimedia/...sville-sp-6189

Grand Forks, ND
http://und.edu/calendar/index.php/vi...igil-and-march

Saginaw, MI
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/in..._for_tray.html

Lafayette, MI
http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/a...4010802&Ref=PH

Ann Arbor, MI
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/vigil-held

Little Rock, AR
http://www.fox16.com/mostpopular/sto...HWxd8UDPQ.cspx

Mahoning County, OH
http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/mar/3...purpose/?print

Cleveland, OH
http://www.clevelandurbannews.com/in...trayvon-martin

Huntington, WV
http://www.acluwv.org/pdfs/Trayvon%20Flyer.pdf

Petersburg, VA
http://www.wistv.com/story/17304849/...-in-petersburg

Chesterfield, VA
http://www.wlox.com/story/17213700/v...hot-in-florida

Blacksburg, VA
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stori...ch-for-trayvon

Memphis, TN
http://www.nbc12.com/story/17260826/...-martins-honor

Clarksville, TN
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/17...trayvon-martin

Boston, MA
http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas..._case_protest/

Providence, RI
http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Oli...&view=ZW50aXR5

Burlington, VT
http://www.wcax.com/story/17270943/t...-in-burlington

Durham, NH
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion..._against_death

Wilkes-Barre, PA
http://citizensvoice.com/news/local-...teen-1.1294121

Philadelphia, PA
http://hot1079philly.com/2906865/tra...-at-love-park/

Pittsburgh, PA
http://thetartan.org/2012/4/2/news/trayvonrally

Albany, NY
http://www.news10.com/story/17331988...trayvon-martin

Syracuse, NY
http://utica-mohawkvalley.ynn.com/co...-wear-hoodies/

Trenton, NJ
http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...test_shoo.html

Annapolis, MD
http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/a...1e1bf7c35.html




Demonstrations outside of the continental US and internationally

St. Croix, Virgin Islands
http://tunuptv.com/videos/st-croix-m...christiansted/

Ramstein, Germany
http://www.stripes.com/news/ramstein...artin-1.173464

Toronto, Canada
http://allevents.in/Toronto/TORONTO-...63617120391250

Vancouver, British Columbia
http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/The+N...ID/2218188736/

London, England
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...in-london.html

Paris, France
http://www.flickr.com/photos/efferlecebe/7013798413/

The concern and outrage over the fact that the defendant was not jailed (initially) for this murder was widespread, and not stoked by any one person.

Instead, it was a sense of moral outrage-- a sense that was shared by literally thousands and more of human beings worldwide.
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The concern and outrage over the fact that the defendant was not jailed (initially) for this murder was widespread, and not stoked by any one person.

Instead, it was a sense of moral outrage-- a sense that was shared by literally thousands and more of human beings worldwide.
It was stoked by irresponsible media coverage
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The demonstrations surrounding the Trayvon Martin tragedy are widespread, racially and regionally diverse, and not organized by one specific entity.


There are many, many people who agree with me with the following two points.

"Self defense" is not a valid legal argument to kill someone when you are the aggressor.

Racial profiling played a role in the death of this 17 year old
.
You don't recognize your "ONE" specific entity as the MEDIA? You don't recognize that all the 12-year old photos of TM and fat old man GZ photos were taken from the "ONE" specific entity - the MEDIA? Seriously!

The most impassioned people who are invoking riots, er..terrorism are the ones that are not watching the trial. They are watching junk TV like HLN and listening to clips on the various news stations, Fox included.

Do you know how the racial profiling meme started? The media cuts the 911 call and only plays that GZ is saying the guy is black. They didn't play that the Dispatcher was asking for a profile. Good grief. Hell ought to be hotter for Al Sharpton and his ilk.
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You don't recognize your "ONE" specific entity as the MEDIA? You don't recognize that all the 12-year old photos of TM and fat old man GZ photos were taken from the "ONE" specific entity - the MEDIA? Seriously!

The most impassioned people who are invoking riots, er..terrorism are the ones that are not watching the trial. They are watching junk TV like HLN and listening to clips on the various news stations, Fox included.

Do you know how the racial profiling meme started? The media cuts the 911 call and only plays that GZ is saying the guy is black. They didn't play that the Dispatcher was asking for a profile. Good grief. Hell ought to be hotter for Al Sharpton and his ilk.
No, I don't recognize the media as one specific entity.

Al Sharpton had nothing to do with the VAST MAJORITY of the demonstrations I provided links to. Will you check them out and stop making anyone who speaks out against anything race-related to be the stepson of satan?

If you think the media is "one-entity", then maybe you'd like to limit the freedom of our press to report the news, to make people aware, and to raise questions when things are not clear.

Riots = Terrorism?

Just as the word, "love" is overused in our society, so is the word "terrorism".
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson View Post
The demonstrations surrounding the Trayvon Martin tragedy are widespread, racially and regionally diverse, and not organized by one specific entity.


There are many, many people who agree with me with the following two points.

"Self defense" is not a valid legal argument to kill someone when you are the aggressor.

Racial profiling played a role in the death of this 17 year old
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TM was the aggressor. That is what the facts show

He was a 17 year old in a hoodie cutting between houses. His skin color is irrelevant. He looked suspicious to a NW whose neighborhood had been broken into several times

When someone is sitting on you pummeling away at you, self defense is valid.

There was a witness
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