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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/...mmerman-trial/
If there is an acquittal, if there is a protest that is peaceful in the Sanford-Orlando area, I will be there.
For me, this has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment.
I'll say again, a full acquittal in this situation will open the door for "legalized" gun-toting vigilantism-- as long as you kill the subject and as long as there aren't any witnesses to say otherwise, you can do what you want under the guise of "neighborhood watch".
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If he is acquitted, the jury decided and everyone should accept it.
If you go to a peaceful protest, knowing this thing was racially stoked by Al Sharpton and the Mayor, then you are promoting racism yourself.
Rioting does more to hurt the outraged and innocent than the target of the anger.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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If he is acquitted, the jury decided and everyone should accept it.
If you go to a peaceful protest, knowing this thing was racially stoked by Al Sharpton and the Mayor, then you are promoting racism yourself.
Rioting does more to hurt the outraged and innocent than the target of the anger.
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Nope, you're wrong.
I have the right to peaceful protest and protesting in this situation wouldn't be racism in the least bit.
There isn't any one being denied anything systematically or institutionally because I decide to participate in peaceful protest of this three-ring circus of a trial.
If there is a conviction, I will be sated.
Read the clip, he did apply to be a cop and he did have at one time aspirations to be a cop.
In fact, Dan Newlin, popular lawyer here in central Florida, also started out as a Sheriffs Deputy.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
You forget that the widespread protests all across this country, before there was a trial, was not defined by their race. It was people of all races who saw the potential of a grave injustice deciding to protest.
It was spontaneous.
It was not organized on a national level.
On the other side of this case, there are A LOT of people who believe, even with the facts that have been presented so far, that the AGGRESSOR should not have legal protection to kill, under "self-defense" or SYG.
For me, and for countless others, this is the rub-- this is what stinks.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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You forget that the widespread protests all across this country, before there was a trial, was not defined by their race. It was people of all races who saw the potential of a grave injustice deciding to protest.
It was spontaneous.
It was not organized on a national level.
On the other side of this case, there are A LOT of people who believe, even with the facts that have been presented so far, that the AGGRESSOR should not have legal protection to kill, under "self-defense" or SYG.
For me, and for countless others, this is the rub-- this is what stinks.
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Sharpton, TM's dad, the Mayor and MSM took the stage on March 22, 2012. Don't tell me this wasn't organized on a national level.
There is a video posted on this thread where Sharpton is interviewing the Defense attorney, O'Mara. Sharpton is explaining why they took it national. Please! I love ya man, but you don't check your sources and don't dig very deep before you comment. Help our country, unite with the facts and truth.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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Sharpton, TM's dad, the Mayor and MSM took the stage on March 22, 2012. Don't tell me this wasn't organized on a national level.
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The demonstrations surrounding the Trayvon Martin tragedy are widespread, racially and regionally diverse, and not organized by one specific entity.
There are many, many people who agree with me with the following two points.
"Self defense" is not a valid legal argument to kill someone when you are the aggressor.
Racial profiling played a role in the death of this 17 year old.
Anchorage, AK
http://www.adn.com/2012/04/07/241255...n-rallies.html
Kennewick,WA
http://www.keprtv.com/news/local/Ken...146568215.html
Seattle, WA
http://mynorthwest.com/11/653240/Sea...Trayvon-Martin
Portland, OR
http://www.oregonlive.com/news-netwo...y_for_tra.html
San Francisco, CA
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1383229.html
Los Angeles, CA
http://fusicology.com/blog/2012/03/2...rayvon-martin/
San Bernadino, CA
http://sbsun.mycapture.com/mycapture...oryID=0&view=1
San Diego, CA
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...rayvon-martin/
Sacramento, CA
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/...rayvon-martin/
Fresno, CA
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/video?id=8610535
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...trayvon-martin
Tucson, AZ
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/1...sonnewsnow.com
Salt Lake City, UT
http://fox13now.com/2012/03/31/utahn...rayvon-martin/
Idaho Falls, ID
http://www.localnews8.com/news/Idaho...k/-/index.html
Reno, NV
http://www.mynews4.com/news/story/Tr...rSJuHGCSA.cspx
Las Vegas, NV
http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/144180375.html
Denver, CO
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...trayvon-martin
Colorado Springs, CO
http://www.krdo.com/news/Colorado-Sp...j/-/index.html
Las Cruces, NM
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-770153
Des Moines, IA
http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/mor...871e3ce6c.html
Davenport, IA
http://westscottcounty.wqad.com/news...trayvon-martin
New Orleans, LA
http://www.wdsu.com/New-Orleans-Stud...z/-/index.html
Shreveport, LA
http://www.wafb.com/story/17338817/p...type=printable
Baton Rouge, LA
http://www.murdertrial.org/article51...von_martin.htm
Winston-Salem, NC
http://www.journalnow.com/news/local...8cb6cb7c1.html
Greensboro, NC
http://www.digtriad.com/news/article...Trayvon-Martin
Raleigh, NC
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/03/...tml&gid_index=
Durham, NC
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article...vigil-soundoff
Pembrooke, NC
http://www.robesonian.com/pages/full...20&id=18043462
Charlotte, NC
http://www.wcnc.com/news/Hundreds-ga...144122005.html
Myrtle Beach, SC
http://www.carolinalive.com/director...3#.UdhH_HPn9kQ
Charleston, SC
http://www.live5news.com/story/17259...trayvon-martin
Florence, AL
http://www.timesdaily.com/archives/a...4c6e6ef64.html
Savannah, GA
http://www.wsav.com/story/21207587/g...trayvon-martin
Hinesville, GA
http://www.wsav.com/story/21207675/p...trayvon-martin
Oklahoma City, OK
http://newsok.com/oklahomans-protest...rticle/3660806
Dallas, TX
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012...-rally-o.html/
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfa...es_trayvon.php
Lubbock, TX
http://www.myfoxlubbock.com/mostpopu...PJQAS-5kg.cspx
Austin, TX
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-767616
Houston, TX
http://thehispanicblog.com/2012/03/2...rtin-movement/
Jackson, MS
http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news...rayvon-martin/
Hattiesburg, MS
http://www.studentprintz.com/nation-...5#.UdhGMnPn9kQ
St. Louis, MO
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Prote...144060366.html
Kansas City, MO
http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_n...-city-missouri
Allentown, KS
http://www.kwch.com/videogallery/690...n-in-Allentown
Indianopolis, IN
http://www.examiner.com/article/tray...t-indianapolis
South Bend, IN
http://www.abc57.com/news/Local-prot...144065006.html
Minneapolis, MN
http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/20...cial-profiling
http://www.startribune.com/local/min...144984745.html
St. Cloud, MN
http://utvsnewsnow.com/?p=13016
Lacrosse, WI
http://lacrossetribune.com/news/loca...a4bcf887a.html
Milwaukee, WI
http://www.fightbacknews.org/2012/4/...lwaukee-police
Madison, WI
http://wibailoutpeople.org/2012/03/2...rison-protest/
Janesville, WI
http://csi.nethopper.net/multimedia/...sville-sp-6189
Grand Forks, ND
http://und.edu/calendar/index.php/vi...igil-and-march
Saginaw, MI
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/in..._for_tray.html
Lafayette, MI
http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/a...4010802&Ref=PH
Ann Arbor, MI
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/vigil-held
Little Rock, AR
http://www.fox16.com/mostpopular/sto...HWxd8UDPQ.cspx
Mahoning County, OH
http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/mar/3...purpose/?print
Cleveland, OH
http://www.clevelandurbannews.com/in...trayvon-martin
Huntington, WV
http://www.acluwv.org/pdfs/Trayvon%20Flyer.pdf
Petersburg, VA
http://www.wistv.com/story/17304849/...-in-petersburg
Chesterfield, VA
http://www.wlox.com/story/17213700/v...hot-in-florida
Blacksburg, VA
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stori...ch-for-trayvon
Memphis, TN
http://www.nbc12.com/story/17260826/...-martins-honor
Clarksville, TN
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/17...trayvon-martin
Boston, MA
http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas..._case_protest/
Providence, RI
http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Oli...&view=ZW50aXR5
Burlington, VT
http://www.wcax.com/story/17270943/t...-in-burlington
Durham, NH
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion..._against_death
Wilkes-Barre, PA
http://citizensvoice.com/news/local-...teen-1.1294121
Philadelphia, PA
http://hot1079philly.com/2906865/tra...-at-love-park/
Pittsburgh, PA
http://thetartan.org/2012/4/2/news/trayvonrally
Albany, NY
http://www.news10.com/story/17331988...trayvon-martin
Syracuse, NY
http://utica-mohawkvalley.ynn.com/co...-wear-hoodies/
Trenton, NJ
http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...test_shoo.html
Annapolis, MD
http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/a...1e1bf7c35.html
Demonstrations outside of the continental US and internationally
St. Croix, Virgin Islands
http://tunuptv.com/videos/st-croix-m...christiansted/
Ramstein, Germany
http://www.stripes.com/news/ramstein...artin-1.173464
Toronto, Canada
http://allevents.in/Toronto/TORONTO-...63617120391250
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/The+N...ID/2218188736/
London, England
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...in-london.html
Paris, France
http://www.flickr.com/photos/efferlecebe/7013798413/
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07-06-2013, 12:02 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
The demonstrations surrounding the Trayvon Martin tragedy are widespread, racially and regionally diverse, and not organized by one specific entity.
There are many, many people who agree with me with the following two points.
"Self defense" is not a valid legal argument to kill someone when you are the aggressor.
Racial profiling played a role in the death of this 17 year old.
Anchorage, AK
http://www.adn.com/2012/04/07/241255...n-rallies.html
Kennewick,WA
http://www.keprtv.com/news/local/Ken...146568215.html
Seattle, WA
http://mynorthwest.com/11/653240/Sea...Trayvon-Martin
Portland, OR
http://www.oregonlive.com/news-netwo...y_for_tra.html
San Francisco, CA
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1383229.html
Los Angeles, CA
http://fusicology.com/blog/2012/03/2...rayvon-martin/
San Bernadino, CA
http://sbsun.mycapture.com/mycapture...oryID=0&view=1
San Diego, CA
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...rayvon-martin/
Sacramento, CA
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/...rayvon-martin/
Fresno, CA
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/video?id=8610535
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...trayvon-martin
Tucson, AZ
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/1...sonnewsnow.com
Salt Lake City, UT
http://fox13now.com/2012/03/31/utahn...rayvon-martin/
Idaho Falls, ID
http://www.localnews8.com/news/Idaho...k/-/index.html
Reno, NV
http://www.mynews4.com/news/story/Tr...rSJuHGCSA.cspx
Las Vegas, NV
http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/144180375.html
Denver, CO
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...trayvon-martin
Colorado Springs, CO
http://www.krdo.com/news/Colorado-Sp...j/-/index.html
Las Cruces, NM
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-770153
Des Moines, IA
http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/mor...871e3ce6c.html
Davenport, IA
http://westscottcounty.wqad.com/news...trayvon-martin
New Orleans, LA
http://www.wdsu.com/New-Orleans-Stud...z/-/index.html
Shreveport, LA
http://www.wafb.com/story/17338817/p...type=printable
Baton Rouge, LA
http://www.murdertrial.org/article51...von_martin.htm
Winston-Salem, NC
http://www.journalnow.com/news/local...8cb6cb7c1.html
Greensboro, NC
http://www.digtriad.com/news/article...Trayvon-Martin
Raleigh, NC
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/03/...tml&gid_index=
Durham, NC
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article...vigil-soundoff
Pembrooke, NC
http://www.robesonian.com/pages/full...20&id=18043462
Charlotte, NC
http://www.wcnc.com/news/Hundreds-ga...144122005.html
Myrtle Beach, SC
http://www.carolinalive.com/director...3#.UdhH_HPn9kQ
Charleston, SC
http://www.live5news.com/story/17259...trayvon-martin
Florence, AL
http://www.timesdaily.com/archives/a...4c6e6ef64.html
Savannah, GA
http://www.wsav.com/story/21207587/g...trayvon-martin
Hinesville, GA
http://www.wsav.com/story/21207675/p...trayvon-martin
Oklahoma City, OK
http://newsok.com/oklahomans-protest...rticle/3660806
Dallas, TX
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012...-rally-o.html/
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfa...es_trayvon.php
Lubbock, TX
http://www.myfoxlubbock.com/mostpopu...PJQAS-5kg.cspx
Austin, TX
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-767616
Houston, TX
http://thehispanicblog.com/2012/03/2...rtin-movement/
Jackson, MS
http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news...rayvon-martin/
Hattiesburg, MS
http://www.studentprintz.com/nation-...5#.UdhGMnPn9kQ
St. Louis, MO
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Prote...144060366.html
Kansas City, MO
http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_n...-city-missouri
Allentown, KS
http://www.kwch.com/videogallery/690...n-in-Allentown
Indianopolis, IN
http://www.examiner.com/article/tray...t-indianapolis
South Bend, IN
http://www.abc57.com/news/Local-prot...144065006.html
Minneapolis, MN
http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/20...cial-profiling
http://www.startribune.com/local/min...144984745.html
St. Cloud, MN
http://utvsnewsnow.com/?p=13016
Lacrosse, WI
http://lacrossetribune.com/news/loca...a4bcf887a.html
Milwaukee, WI
http://www.fightbacknews.org/2012/4/...lwaukee-police
Madison, WI
http://wibailoutpeople.org/2012/03/2...rison-protest/
Janesville, WI
http://csi.nethopper.net/multimedia/...sville-sp-6189
Grand Forks, ND
http://und.edu/calendar/index.php/vi...igil-and-march
Saginaw, MI
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/in..._for_tray.html
Lafayette, MI
http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/a...4010802&Ref=PH
Ann Arbor, MI
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/vigil-held
Little Rock, AR
http://www.fox16.com/mostpopular/sto...HWxd8UDPQ.cspx
Mahoning County, OH
http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/mar/3...purpose/?print
Cleveland, OH
http://www.clevelandurbannews.com/in...trayvon-martin
Huntington, WV
http://www.acluwv.org/pdfs/Trayvon%20Flyer.pdf
Petersburg, VA
http://www.wistv.com/story/17304849/...-in-petersburg
Chesterfield, VA
http://www.wlox.com/story/17213700/v...hot-in-florida
Blacksburg, VA
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stori...ch-for-trayvon
Memphis, TN
http://www.nbc12.com/story/17260826/...-martins-honor
Clarksville, TN
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/17...trayvon-martin
Boston, MA
http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas..._case_protest/
Providence, RI
http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Oli...&view=ZW50aXR5
Burlington, VT
http://www.wcax.com/story/17270943/t...-in-burlington
Durham, NH
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion..._against_death
Wilkes-Barre, PA
http://citizensvoice.com/news/local-...teen-1.1294121
Philadelphia, PA
http://hot1079philly.com/2906865/tra...-at-love-park/
Pittsburgh, PA
http://thetartan.org/2012/4/2/news/trayvonrally
Albany, NY
http://www.news10.com/story/17331988...trayvon-martin
Syracuse, NY
http://utica-mohawkvalley.ynn.com/co...-wear-hoodies/
Trenton, NJ
http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...test_shoo.html
Annapolis, MD
http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/a...1e1bf7c35.html
Demonstrations outside of the continental US and internationally
St. Croix, Virgin Islands
http://tunuptv.com/videos/st-croix-m...christiansted/
Ramstein, Germany
http://www.stripes.com/news/ramstein...artin-1.173464
Toronto, Canada
http://allevents.in/Toronto/TORONTO-...63617120391250
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/The+N...ID/2218188736/
London, England
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...in-london.html
Paris, France
http://www.flickr.com/photos/efferlecebe/7013798413/
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The concern and outrage over the fact that the defendant was not jailed (initially) for this murder was widespread, and not stoked by any one person.
Instead, it was a sense of moral outrage-- a sense that was shared by literally thousands and more of human beings worldwide.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
The concern and outrage over the fact that the defendant was not jailed (initially) for this murder was widespread, and not stoked by any one person.
Instead, it was a sense of moral outrage-- a sense that was shared by literally thousands and more of human beings worldwide.
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It was stoked by irresponsible media coverage
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
The demonstrations surrounding the Trayvon Martin tragedy are widespread, racially and regionally diverse, and not organized by one specific entity.
There are many, many people who agree with me with the following two points.
"Self defense" is not a valid legal argument to kill someone when you are the aggressor.
Racial profiling played a role in the death of this 17 year old.
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You don't recognize your "ONE" specific entity as the MEDIA? You don't recognize that all the 12-year old photos of TM and fat old man GZ photos were taken from the "ONE" specific entity - the MEDIA? Seriously!
The most impassioned people who are invoking riots, er..terrorism are the ones that are not watching the trial. They are watching junk TV like HLN and listening to clips on the various news stations, Fox included.
Do you know how the racial profiling meme started? The media cuts the 911 call and only plays that GZ is saying the guy is black. They didn't play that the Dispatcher was asking for a profile. Good grief. Hell ought to be hotter for Al Sharpton and his ilk.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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You don't recognize your "ONE" specific entity as the MEDIA? You don't recognize that all the 12-year old photos of TM and fat old man GZ photos were taken from the "ONE" specific entity - the MEDIA? Seriously!
The most impassioned people who are invoking riots, er..terrorism are the ones that are not watching the trial. They are watching junk TV like HLN and listening to clips on the various news stations, Fox included.
Do you know how the racial profiling meme started? The media cuts the 911 call and only plays that GZ is saying the guy is black. They didn't play that the Dispatcher was asking for a profile. Good grief. Hell ought to be hotter for Al Sharpton and his ilk.
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No, I don't recognize the media as one specific entity.
Al Sharpton had nothing to do with the VAST MAJORITY of the demonstrations I provided links to. Will you check them out and stop making anyone who speaks out against anything race-related to be the stepson of satan?
If you think the media is "one-entity", then maybe you'd like to limit the freedom of our press to report the news, to make people aware, and to raise questions when things are not clear.
Riots = Terrorism?
Just as the word, "love" is overused in our society, so is the word "terrorism".
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
The demonstrations surrounding the Trayvon Martin tragedy are widespread, racially and regionally diverse, and not organized by one specific entity.
There are many, many people who agree with me with the following two points.
"Self defense" is not a valid legal argument to kill someone when you are the aggressor.
Racial profiling played a role in the death of this 17 year old.
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TM was the aggressor. That is what the facts show
He was a 17 year old in a hoodie cutting between houses. His skin color is irrelevant. He looked suspicious to a NW whose neighborhood had been broken into several times
When someone is sitting on you pummeling away at you, self defense is valid.
There was a witness
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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