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05-24-2007, 08:04 PM
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-24-2007, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
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Well....seriously. Why be in it if you are going to go against the teachings? I think if someone is going to try to stay in and create change it has to be done in such a way that does not appear insubmissive. My opinion.
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05-24-2007, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ILG
Well....seriously. Why be in it if you are going to go against the teachings? I think if someone is going to try to stay in and create change it has to be done in such a way that does not appear insubmissive. My opinion.
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ILG, I don't have a horse in this race... but, me thinks it's is a bit more complicated. It depends much on the intent of the language at the time it was written, and whether anything has changed since that time. True, things may be best changed on the national/legistlative level before it is changed in practice, but change rarely occurs that way. Rather than immediate change in wording, it is more common that the penalties for infractions are relaxed or done away with first.
BTW I am not so sure you weren't guilty of infraction when you say,
"We didn't preach things we didn't believe....."
It could be, and is argued by some that you were under obligation to do so....
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-24-2007, 10:22 PM
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I want to recant my earlier statements I have been informed by a very reliable source this issue has been settled. So the issue is mute.
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05-24-2007, 10:24 PM
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Did anyone find my keys
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
I want to recant my earlier statements I have been informed by a very reliable source this issue has been settled. So the issue is mute.
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And nothing happened like you predicted???
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05-24-2007, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
I want to recant my earlier statements I have been informed by a very reliable source this issue has been settled. So the issue is mute.
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I read this to mean the violator relinquished his position and preempted any action.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-24-2007, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
I want to recant my earlier statements I have been informed by a very reliable source this issue has been settled. So the issue is mute.
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05-25-2007, 07:30 AM
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Go ahead I can take it and will admit when I was wrong. Now I do NOT know how it was rectified I was not shared that info but the party he told me was trustworthy.
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05-25-2007, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Go ahead I can take it and will admit when I was wrong. Now I do NOT know how it was rectified I was not shared that info but the party he told me was trustworthy.
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So, is it some big secret?
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05-25-2007, 07:54 AM
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Just want to say, I was raised by a UPC pastor & have several relatives that hold license with the UPC. NONE of them had or have TV's.
My parents didn't even let us turn on the TV in hotel rooms when we were kids and they weren't what most would consider conservative. We wear wedding rings, short sleeves & knee length skirts! LOL!
I would struggle with sitting under a pastor who belongs to an org that has asked their ministers not have TV & they have one. Where's the integrity?
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