Obama Files Federal Charges Against Zimmerman

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

He isn't definitely certain of TM's color at the beginning of the Dispatch call, but goes on to describe his clothing:

Zimmerman: "Yea. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He's [unintelligible], he was just staring...

Dispatch: Okay, he's just walking around the area?

Zimmerman: ...looking at all the houses.

More than color, he profiled how he was dressed and how he was acting. I think they both go together. And really, it is a sensible assessment.

I honestly don't see that as "profiling" his clothing style. He seemed much more concerned with TM looking at all the houses and particularly with him acting like "he's on drugs or something." The clothing, IMO, was just a description. In fact, it wasn't until the dispatcher asked, "Did you see what he was wearing," that GZ answered, "Yeah, a dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now and he’s just staring." The clothing description was given as an aside almost. I think he was actually profiling the tennis shoes! LOL

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Subdued

I honestly don't see that as "profiling" his clothing style. He seemed much more concerned with TM looking at all the houses and particularly with him acting like "he's on drugs or something." The clothing, IMO, was just a description. In fact, it wasn't until the dispatcher asked, "Did you see what he was wearing," that GZ answered, "Yeah, a dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now and he’s just staring." The clothing description was given as an aside almost. I think he was actually profiling the tennis shoes! LOL

Probably just me, but the clothing would have attracted my attention. Logically, GZ would have had to have reported a suspicious person before saying anything about what he was wearing.

It's good the way the conversation with the Dispatch played out, as you can't prove a Civil Rights issue with it. Because, like I have done, I assumed the suspicion involved more than TM's looking around. It's a no-brainer, but can't be proved in court.

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Probably just me, but the clothing would have attracted my attention. Logically, GZ would have had to have reported a suspicious person before saying anything about what he was wearing.

It's good the way the conversation with the Dispatch played out, as you can't prove a Civil Rights issue with it. Because, like I have done, I assumed the suspicion involved more than TM's looking around. It's a no-brainer, but can't be proved in court.

I guess that since I live in a state that often has cold weather nine months per year, when I see someone wearing a hoodie, with or without the hood up, I consider it to be the norm around here. To me, it's no big deal. If it's cool weather, people typically wear a hoodie. My own children have several hoodies a piece, in just about every color. Seeing someone wearing a hoodie would never raise my suspicions. However, the person on the 7-11 video with the hoodie tied tight around his face DID raise my suspicions; so perhaps I *AM* a profiler after all. *shrugs*

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Subdued

I guess that since I live in a state that often has cold weather nine months per year, when I see someone wearing a hoodie, with or without the hood up, I consider it to be the norm around here. To me, it's no big deal. If it's cool weather, people typically wear a hoodie. My own children have several hoodies a piece, in just about every color. Seeing someone wearing a hoodie would never raise my suspicions. However, the person on the 7-11 video with the hoodie tied tight around his face DID raise my suspicions; so perhaps I *AM* a profiler after all. *shrugs*

That's an interesting perspective as I live in the south. Hadn't thought of that.

All over the MSM I am listening to black people saying their kids are not going to be safe. Why don't they talk about TM having time to get home and deciding not to? I haven't heard one person on MSM talk about that.

And no one will talk about TM's history, the things found on this phone. The problem that runs deeper than him not going home when he had time.

[Esther]

Investigator: Officer why didn't you observe that man wearing a trench coat in the summer coming in to rob a bank. Didn't you think that was out of character?

Officer: I would be accused of profiling if I made any assumptions, so I had to wait and see if he was carrying a gun under that coat. If I knew I would not have been sued for profiling I could have stopped him shooting that teller.

That is an example of how ridiculous so called "profiling" has become.

If a dog bites you it would be wise in my opinion to go looking for a dog and not another kind of animal.

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by Esther

Investigator: Officer why didn't you observe that man wearing a trench coat in the summer coming in to rob a bank. Didn't you think that was out of character?

Officer: I would be accused of profiling if I made any assumptions, so I had to wait and see if he was carrying a gun under that coat. If I knew I would not have been sued for profiling I could have stopped him shooting that teller.

That is an example of how ridiculous so called "profiling" has become.

If a dog bites you it would be wise in my opinion to go looking for a dog and not another kind of animal.

That isnt profiling. Profiling is pulling over someone just because of the color of their skin.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

That isnt profiling. Profiling is pulling over someone just because of the color of their skin.

MSM is saying that GZ either profiled by skin color and/or his hoodie. So, it appears it can go both ways, at least, to them anyway.

[Praxeas]

Tell their kids not to sucker punch others because he might be armed with a gun...