For those not for the UPCI, what org and why?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Dear Ferd anything that does not conform to your ideas is a buncha blather, only your words are full of wisdom, allow me to bow down in humility before you. I am overpowered by your great and magnificent wise counsel rather than the buncha blather from everyone else.

Mr. Sword, i am sorry you cant see the forrest for the trees. But you are wrong. I have taken issue with 2 things in this thread.
1. You dont need a preacher to offer correction to your life. (for this I was told my reply which was strictly scripture was out of line)
2. The UPCI is a cult. (in light of the previously mentioned discorse, I chose the opposite, offer disagreement sans explination... I get told I am out of line)

interesting...

I have NOT suggested anyone needed to belong to a UPCI church. I have not offered criticism for anyone who has walked away from a UPCI church.


http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...7&postcount=55

in the link you will find me recommending a church in South Forth Worth. That church is far more liberal than I am, and is an X-UPCI church. I not only recommend the church itself, but recommend the pastor as he is someone I have a great deal of respect for. He and I don’t agree on a lot of things.

so get a life, grow up and start reading for comprehension.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Mr. Sword, i am sorry you cant see the forrest for the trees. But you are wrong. I have taken issue with 2 things in this thread.
1. You dont need a preacher to offer correction to your life. (for this I was told my reply which was strictly scripture was out of line)

There seems to be a miscommunication here, I have never said that people do not need a preacher to offer correction in your life, I said something different.
I said that preachers are responsible to teach the congregation and parents are responsible to teach their children.
I am myself a preacher and I preach the word of God, yet I would never dare to try to displace the role of the parents with their children. They are their children not mine.

2. The UPCI is a cult. (in light of the previously mentioned discorse, I chose the opposite, offer disagreement sans explination... I get told I am out of line)

Well I have never said the UPC is a cult, not once, what I do say and sustain is that they do have many man-made rules that are not in the Bible.
The most I would dare to call the UPC is a domineering organization, but never would I label them as a cult.

You see, I consider the UPC as saved brethren, even though some of them would not even consider me a brother.

interesting...

I have NOT suggested anyone needed to belong to a UPCI church. I have not offered criticism for anyone who has walked away from a UPCI church.


http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...7&postcount=55

in the link you will find me recommending a church in South Forth Worth. That church is far more liberal than I am, and is an X-UPCI church. I not only recommend the church itself, but recommend the pastor as he is someone I have a great deal of respect for. He and I don’t agree on a lot of things.

so get a life, grow up and start reading for comprehension.

If you want to keep saying "But you are wrong" and "so get a life, grow up and start reading for comprehension" you are free to do so.

After all I am kind of used to this behavior from UPC members, I am very kind and nice to the UPC folk even though most of them are usually dismissive of me and are mean to me.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

If you want to keep saying "But you are wrong" and "so get a life, grow up and start reading for comprehension" you are free to do so.

After all I am kind of used to this behavior from UPC members, I am very kind and nice to the UPC folk even though most of them are usually dismissive of me and are mean to me.

And I would submit to you that if you are indeed "used" to such comments, it might have less to do with the UPCI, and more to do with your own condesending attitude.

just sayin'.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Ferd

And I would submit to you that if you are indeed "used" to such comments, it might have less to do with the UPCI, and more to do with your own condesending attitude.

just sayin'.

In your opinion I might have a condescending attitude, but I accept my oneness brethren regardless of whether they are UPCI or from other organizations.

While most of the UPCI members reject anyone who is not a UPCI member, a very exclusivist attitude.

so you tell me which is worst?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

In your opinion I might have a condescending attitude, but I accept my oneness brethren regardless of whether they are UPCI or from other organizations.

While most of the UPCI members reject anyone who is not a UPCI member, a very exclusivist attitude.

so you tell me which is worst?

just walk away bro. holding onto the grudge only hurts you.


You know something funny? I have on serveral occasions reached out to friends who have left the UPCI. Preacher friends.... and I am thinking of a good half dozen such situations where I was completly rejected. so, my experience is those who have left dont want anyone to even talk to them.

I dont hold that against everyone who has left.... I dont even hold it against those spicific people.