Well Technically Speaking....

[The Lemon]

Just throwing out a question that I know has been asked and talked about on here probably a zillion times but at any rate here goes:

Saw a post today from a friend and minister and her was preaching (or ranting) about how your sins can only be remmitted if when you are baptized the preacher proclaims the name of Jesus.

Further more - he went on to say if you were baptized in the titles that you were decieved by the devil and that you would reside in the lake of fire if you are not baptized "correctly".

That is the jist at any rate. Now - I am not starting this so we all can berate one another on this subject - that said, my initial question after I read his post was - "Do we really believe that God sends people to Hell for all eternity over a technicality?"

Now, if I baptize, I do do it in the name of Jesus, and would personally not do it any other way - but that being said, I have a serious problem with grouping folks as unsaved and hellbound over what was or was not said at the moment of baptism.

Call me a coward, but it is a bit of a gray area to me and I was astonished at how bold and matter of fact this preacher friend was putting it in his post - I kinda scratched my head on that one..

[Pliny]

There is one gospel. Eph. 4:5
Anyone preaching anything other than that one gospel is accursed. Gal. 1:8-9
We are to earnestly contend for that faith... Jude 1:3
That faith was once for all delivered to the saints Jude 1:3

That faith was delivered on the day of Pentecost when Peter and the other Disciples fulfilled the command of Christ.

If we are to do everything in the name of Christ then baptism is indeed a "deed" that must be done in Jesus' name. Col. 3:17

There is no other way but through Jesus Christ.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Pliny

There is no other way but through Jesus Christ.

Then why do some folks plot the route through someone in addition to Jesus Christ, i.e., the saving path of a man performing the baptismal ritual 'correctly'.....the oneness Pentecostal preacher?

The route to having one's sins remitted in some oneness Pentecostal teachings is really no different than the roman catholic view. There are many romanist practices in most Christian sects today, including the oneness Pentecostal (circa 1913) sect.

[houston]

Col 3:17. Really? Do you say "in Jesus' name" when you turn on the light switch? Well, maybe if you're religious.

Col 3:17 is not about vocalizing Jesus' name. He is saying to do everything as unto the Lord.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by houston

Col 3:17. Really? Do you say "in Jesus' name" when you turn on the light switch? Well, maybe if you're religious.

Col 3:17 is not about vocalizing Jesus' name. He is saying to do everything as unto the Lord.

You must truly be a blissful person...

[houston]

Originally Posted by Pliny

You must truly be a blissful person...

I apologize. I am very sorry...





...that you don't understand what you read.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by houston

I am very sorry...

On this we agree.

[kclee4jc]

We don't have the authority to reduce what God has said to a technicality.

Would you call God's command that priesthood only touch the ark a technicality.
Apparently God didnt consider it such because the Bible says that "the anger of the Lord was kindled and against Uzzah: and God smote him there for his error" because of his well intentioned disobedience.

How about the specifics of offering incense in the tabernacle? Technicality?
Scripture says that "Fire went out from the Lord, and devoured" Nadab and Abihu because they brought strange fire to offer before the Lord.

How about Moses striking the rock rather than speaking to it as commanded? Just a technicality right? Nope...it's what disqualified him from entering into the land God had promised!

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

We don't have the authority to reduce what God has said to a technicality.

Would you call God's command that priesthood only touch the ark a tecnicality.
Apparently God didnt consider it such because the Bible says that "the anger of the Lord was kindled and against Uzzah: and God smote him there for his error" because of his well intentioned disobedience.

How about the specifics of offering incense in the tabernacle? Technicality?
Scripture says that "Fire went out from the Lord, and devoured" Nadab and Abihu because they brought strange fire to offer before the Lord.

How about Moses striking the rock rather than speaking to it as commanded? Just a technicality right? Nope...it's what disqualified him from entering into the land God had promised!

Good points.

[kclee4jc]

Furthermore..Scripture calls those who preach "another Gospel" "accursed".
meaning doomed to destruction
Those who cease to preach the necessity of Apostolic New Birth bring destruction upon themselves.
I know its old hat. I know its been said a thousand times.
That doesnt make all of the above any less true. And the ability to come up with new arguments does not validate heresy.