Well Technically Speaking....

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Remission of sins has everything to do with the gospel.
And sins are forgiven/remitted by baptism in Jesus' name.

Ignorance is bliss and some people are exceedingly blissful.

I baptize in Jesus name. But salvation doesn't have anything in my opinion to do with the words spoken in baptism, but with the faith of the person being baptized. I think Romans 4 is pretty clear about this and in particular verse 10.

Baptism in JN is proper because His name was invoked it is biblically and historically supported that the early church baptized invoking the name of Jesus. Paul suggest that baptism was carried out in the name of the person who was crucified for us in 1 Cor 1:13. And of course baptism is an expression of obedience, faith, and identification with Christ. But we go to far to say if certain words aren't spoken in baptism someones sins are not remitted.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

I baptize in Jesus name. But salvation doesn't have anything in my opinion to do with the words spoken in baptism, but with the faith of the person being baptized. I think Romans 4 is pretty clear about this and in particular verse 10.

Baptism in JN is proper because His name was invoked it is biblically and historically supported that the early church baptized invoking the name of Jesus. Paul suggest that baptism was carried out in the name of the person who was crucified for us in 1 Cor 1:13. And of course baptism is an expression of obedience, faith, and identification with Christ. But we go to far to say if certain words aren't spoken in baptism someones sins are not remitted.

The same book of Romans where Paul elaborates on baptism being in HIM not them!?!? Romans 6.

The same book of Romans that the way to walk in new life is to be baptized in HIM not them!?!? Romans 6:5.

We clearly disagree but I appreciate the spirit of your post. I am glad you baptize in Jesus' name and I hope and pray you will lean more my direction.

[seekerman]

Bottom line, making it simple, it doesn't matter what another man utters while immersing someone.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Bottom line, making it simple, it doesn't matter what another man utters while immersing someone.

If it doesn't matter, then it would be fine for me to baptize others in my name?

What if I decide to baptize people into the name of Bill Clinton or perhaps Ronald Regan.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

If it doesn't matter, then it would be fine for me to baptize others in my name?

What if I decide to baptize people into the name of Bill Clinton or perhaps Ronald Regan.

Your intoning "FlamingZword" or "Bill Clinton" or "Ronald Regan" over the individual certainly wouldn't determine the salvation of the individual, would it?

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Your intoning "FlamingZword" or "Bill Clinton" or "Ronald Regan" over the individual certainly wouldn't determine the salvation of the individual, would it?

Ok then in that case feel free to baptize others in your name, since it does not make any difference.

what shall we call the people baptized by you, the Seekermen?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Ok then in that case feel free to baptize others in your name, since it does not make any difference.

what shall we call the people baptized by you, the Seekermen?

Nope, call the people who are baptized by me Christians.

This ain't complicated folks.