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Old 09-26-2013, 08:06 AM
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Re: Four Fatal Flaws That Ruin Ministries

good stuff.... I would add a fifth. and for me it is the number one flaw of ministry. At least those I have seen who fail all seem to have lost it....


That being losing the fear of God.

I have never once preached a sermon to the church about their need to fear God. I have taught this principle but within very constrained limits.

However, preachers need this hammered into their heads. No preacher can afford to lose their fear of God.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:11 AM
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good stuff.... I would add a fifth. and for me it is the number one flaw of ministry. At least those I have seen who fail all seem to have lost it....


That being losing the fear of God.

I have never once preached a sermon to the church about their need to fear God. I have taught this principle but within very constrained limits.

However, preachers need this hammered into their heads. No preacher can afford to lose their fear of God.
I'm not sure if you're using 'fear' here as in being scared that someone is going to hurt you, but the fear of God isn't that kind of fear. It's not possible to truly love someone and have that kind of fear toward them at the same time. Perfect love casts out fear, there's no place for that in a person's life who loves God.

Now, if by 'fear' you mean reverence, that's something different.

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:36 AM
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I'm not sure if you're using 'fear' here as in being scared that someone is going to hurt you, but the fear of God isn't that kind of fear. It's not possible to truly love someone and have that kind of fear toward them at the same time. Perfect love casts out fear, there's no place for that in a person's life who loves God.

Now, if by 'fear' you mean reverence, that's something different.

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
i use the term correctly.... eveyone should reverence God... but when we are talking about ministry, there are some areas that go beyond that.

I dont believe we live in fear (trembling sacared of the lightening bolt etc) but when you have the lives of others in your care, you better understand that God intends you take care of his children.

Every preacher I know that has fallen into sin, lost that. and found themselves shipwrecked.
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good stuff.... I would add a fifth. and for me it is the number one flaw of ministry. At least those I have seen who fail all seem to have lost it....


That being losing the fear of God.

I have never once preached a sermon to the church about their need to fear God. I have taught this principle but within very constrained limits.

However, preachers need this hammered into their heads. No preacher can afford to lose their fear of God.
This brings the sons of Eli to mind.
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