Four Fatal Flaws That Ruin Ministries

[Steve Epley]

Good article too bad he isn't saved.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Good article too bad he isn't saved.

Great to see ya, but to bad your as wrong as 2 boys kissing.......

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Good article too bad he isn't saved.

By the way, Bro. Epley... do you sing songs out of the Sing Unto the Lord hymnbook? Most of them were written by people who - according to your judgment - would not be saved... do you throw out something good just because it comes from someone who in your estimation is "not saved"?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

By the way, Bro. Epley... do you sing songs out of the Sing Unto the Lord hymnbook? Most of them were written by people who - according to your judgment - would not be saved... do you throw out something good just because it comes from someone who in your estimation is "not saved"?

He just said it was a 'good article'????

[houston]

Originally Posted by Esaias

He just said it was a 'good article'????

right. I am also puzzled by the response.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Good article too bad he isn't saved.

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

By the way, Bro. Epley... do you sing songs out of the Sing Unto the Lord hymnbook? Most of them were written by people who - according to your judgment - would not be saved... do you throw out something good just because it comes from someone who in your estimation is "not saved"?

I think the issue lies in Elders estimation that Grady is unsaved.

[houston]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

do you throw out something good just because it comes from someone who in your estimation is "not saved"?

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

I think the issue lies in Elders estimation that Grady is unsaved.

The answer is probably "no."

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Esaias

He just said it was a 'good article'????

Originally Posted by houston

right. I am also puzzled by the response.

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

I think the issue lies in Elders estimation that Grady is unsaved.

Perhaps I jumped the gun on Epley's quote saying it was a good article, but wished the guy were saved. The second part of what he wrote was what got my goat. It seems that if someone says something that is good, yet they're not "saved", it is okay to throw it all in the trash... and perhaps Epley wasn't meaning that... but I know many who do the same thing.

And my question to them is... do you sing songs written by men who died drunk, like Hank Williams who wrote "I Saw the Light" ... Do you read books written by Trinitarians? Do you throw anything and everything out that someone did, wrote, or sang that was good, but because they weren't "saved"... you have no part of it... ?

It is this mindset that I was attempting to address, because I suspect Epley may buy into that... although I could be wrong.... and I hope I am.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Perhaps I jumped the gun on Epley's quote saying it was a good article, but wished the guy were saved. The second part of what he wrote was what got my goat. It seems that if someone says something that is good, yet they're not "saved", it is okay to throw it all in the trash... and perhaps Epley wasn't meaning that... but I know many who do the same thing.

And my question to them is... do you sing songs written by men who died drunk, like Hank Williams who wrote "I Saw the Light" ... Do you read books written by Trinitarians? Do you throw anything and everything out that someone did, wrote, or sang that was good, but because they weren't "saved"... you have no part of it... ?

It is this mindset that I was attempting to address, because I suspect Epley may buy into that... although I could be wrong.... and I hope I am.

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[seekerman]

How does one judge and determine if another person is saved or not?