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Old 10-13-2013, 07:32 AM
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Re: Unitarians who worship Jesus as God

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Following Jesus' example is the best way.
Following the directives of his Father would be best.
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Old 10-13-2013, 09:08 AM
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Following the directives of his Father would be best.
He only says what His Father says. He and His Father are one.
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Old 10-13-2013, 10:59 AM
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He only says what His Father says. He and His Father are one.

So when his Father said "Thou art my son, this day I have begotten thee", did Jesus repeat those words?

Get real, Seekerman. why not do something novel, like actually reading this sermonette I posted and see where this guy is coming from? Then ,point by point, tell us where you agree or disagree.
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Old 10-13-2013, 02:01 PM
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Oh, I reverence Jesus the Son of God. I just don't worship Him as God, I worship the same God that He and His brethern worship.
You reverence Jesus the Son of God as what? a man? an angel?
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Old 10-13-2013, 03:39 PM
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So when his Father said "Thou art my son, this day I have begotten thee", did Jesus repeat those words?
He spoke the words His Father directed Him to speak.....

Joh 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

I'm not sure if His Father told Him to speak those words or not, there's no record of Him speaking them.

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Get real, Seekerman. why not do something novel, like actually reading this sermonette I posted and see where this guy is coming from? Then ,point by point, tell us where you agree or disagree.
I'll certainly respond to your personal posts, but as I've said many times on the forum, I'm not going to respond to someone else's thoughts and beliefs. If you wish to post whatever you consider important in the sermon, point by point, I'll respond to them.
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Old 10-13-2013, 03:40 PM
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You reverence Jesus the Son of God as what? a man? an angel?
Didn't we have a veryyyyyyyyyy long discussion on this not long ago?

To refresh your memory, I view Jesus as a type of angelic being for lack of a better description. Remember?
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Old 10-13-2013, 03:42 PM
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Didn't we have a veryyyyyyyyyy long discussion on this not long ago?

To refresh your memory, I view Jesus as a type of angelic being for lack of a better description. Remember?
So Originalist, Seeker is not a Unitarian. He is an Arian.
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Old 10-13-2013, 03:47 PM
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So Originalist, Seeker is not a Unitarian. He is an Arian.
I thought y'all knew that.
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Old 10-13-2013, 03:59 PM
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I thought y'all knew that.
Even if he is, he is still not worshiping the Son as the Father commands. You could be a Unitarian or even an Arian and give the Son the worship the Father wants him to have.
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Old 10-13-2013, 04:00 PM
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Even if he is, he is still not worshiping the Son as the Father commands. You could be a Unitarian or even an Arian and give the Son the worship the Father wants him to have.
Scripturally speaking, what worship does the Father want Jesus to have?
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