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Old 11-21-2013, 01:33 PM
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I did read it a long time ago. It was a good read.

I must ask... Why should one be cautious about intentionally seeking to recreate those similar things? Is it out of "fear" of something? Fear isn't faith. And God hasn't given us a spirit of fear. The church can't move forward and do the "greater works" as promised if we fear stepping out and just doing them and letting the chips fall where they may.
I urge caution because one may inadvertently wind up practicing witchcraft, divination, whatever you wanna call it, while thinking they are doing 'spiritual, holy Ghost-led activities'.

I have seen it happen firsthand, and the end results aren't pretty.
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I urge caution because one may inadvertently wind up practicing witchcraft, divination, whatever you wanna call it, while thinking they are doing 'spiritual, holy Ghost-led activities'.

I have seen it happen firsthand, and the end results aren't pretty.
I've seen it happen too. And yes... I also believe that one should be cautious. Cautious... but not fearful of growing spiritually.

I also consider this... Satan can't create anything or generate power. Satan has nothing original to work with. Technically... in some manner... it's all "of God". Again... the question is: Who is being served? What is the purpose of the usage of this power?

I'm reminded of the old joke wherein an atheist professes that now he can create life from dirt. God then tells him... "Find your own dirt." lol

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Technically... in some manner... it's all "of God".
I would challenge that thought. God did not forbid divination 'unless it is serving God and being used for good'.

There is no 'white magick'.
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I would challenge that thought. God did not forbid divination 'unless it is serving God and being used for good'.

There is no 'white magick'.
Divination is a form of idolatry. It glorifies false gods and teachings. Also... it is rooted in cards, Ouija boards, crystals, and a lot of other junk that was related to false gods.

However...

In the OT we do have prophets and seers who were gifted and sought out by many for a word of prophesy. We see the Urim and Thummim. We also see "casting lots" to determine divine will. We see "astrologers" that depict the message of the heavens, which utter knowledge both day and night. We see prophets and seers interpret dreams, visions, voices, etc. Of course the prophet and the seer are essentially the same thing. However, they both have a distinctly different role and function.

We have to remind ourselves... everything in Satan's arsenal is a copy of something originally employed by God. Satan is a counterfeiter. He's never all that original. Even the Zodiac is holy... if it's understood as God intended it to be. It's even mentioned in Scripture as the, Mazzaroth. It's original purpose was to foretell and prophetically explain future events relating to the Gospel. However, Satan has twisted it up to some how depict outlooks for individuals and private matters like finances and one's love life. Daneil and the Magi used it correctly. Here's a link to the Mazzaroth's actual message:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...1&d=1332868677

The lesser constellations can even become more descriptive. Essentially... the major themes of the entire Bible are slowly turning above our heads for all to see. An interesting read can be found at this link:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Witness-St...l+in+the+Stars

Psalm 19:1-3 (KJV)
1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

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There is no 'white magick'.
True. Any "energy" not rooted in that emanating from God's own essence should be rejected. The Greek Orthodox Church has quite a bit of knowledge concerning the divine "energies" residing in God's essence. It helps to really know Greek. lol
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