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11-23-2013, 09:33 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Didn't Tom Barnes teach trusting God for healing rather than going to the doctor? Worked for him, lived to a ripe old age.
Use of doctors and medicine is greatly abused in our culture, the human body has much greater ability to heal itself than many give it credit. Matter fact, much of the bodies natural healing ability is destroyed by medicines today.
But if you break a leg, get injured in a car wreck, hopefully a trauma center is close by, medical science does a great job of saving lives.
Most threatens to our health is self imposed by unhealthy habits, in diet and activity. Lose that extra 40 lbs and you will be amazed at how healthy you suddenly are. Not with crazy diets, that don't work, only make you fatter. Get the old book, "Fit for Life" eat the menus in it for two years, and I guarantee you'll feel 10-15 years younger and stronger.
Most people eat garbage, nutrition wise, and expect doctors to fit all their health problems with medicine. Doctors treat the symptoms, that cause side effects, then treat the side effects, all to try to keep folks alive, but it is a losing battle, due to diet and activity!!!
We all know it is true, we just have so much emotional issues we don't have the ability to do what we know.
I am trying, and somewhat succeeding in doing something about it, lost 30 lbs over three years kept 20 of it off, working on another 20. When I follow the "Fit for Life" plan it is easy...and I fill satisfied.
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No I dont believe he did. Infact he regularly visited people in hospitals
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-23-2013, 10:06 PM
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crakjak
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
No I dont believe he did. Infact he regularly visited people in hospitals
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Yes, he visited folks in the hospitals, because he prayed for them, he believed deeply in divine healing. Not just in word, but in deed.
I don't believe he preached against doctors, he simply preached divine healing, and he practiced what he preached.
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11-23-2013, 10:50 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Yes, he visited folks in the hospitals, because he prayed for them, he believed deeply in divine healing. Not just in word, but in deed.
I don't believe he preached against doctors, he simply preached divine healing, and he practiced what he preached.
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So then you are agreeing with me?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-24-2013, 03:57 PM
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crakjak
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
So then you are agreeing with me?
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Amazing, but yes!! LOL
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11-23-2013, 10:11 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
I personally knew one man who taught the "no doctor" doctrine, in fact his wife died at home, the result of a fall (had fractured pelvis and impacted bowel...died from impacted bowel...extremely horrific way to die) and even he relented and tried to get her to go to the doctor.....she refused because of his past teaching. **He did NOT suggest that it was wrong to take a child to the doctor** What he did teach was to get prayer first and then IF God did not heal, get the medical help the child needed. They saw many miracle healings as a result of their faith/God first belief.
I have known of others, even some who post on this forum.....however NONE of them would ever endanger/abuse a child.
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11-23-2013, 11:26 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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Originally Posted by bishoph
I personally knew one man who taught the "no doctor" doctrine, in fact his wife died at home, the result of a fall (had fractured pelvis and impacted bowel...died from impacted bowel...extremely horrific way to die) and even he relented and tried to get her to go to the doctor.....she refused because of his past teaching. **He did NOT suggest that it was wrong to take a child to the doctor** What he did teach was to get prayer first and then IF God did not heal, get the medical help the child needed. They saw many miracle healings as a result of their faith/God first belief.
I have known of others, even some who post on this forum.....however NONE of them would ever endanger/abuse a child.
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This is what my previous pastor preached, trust God for healing, but if you don't have the faith to the healed, then see a Doctor.
My former pastor also told me of a preachers wife that died of breast cancer because she was trusting God for healing. This was rare. Certainly not the norm for apostolics.
I suspect that if I didn't go for regular cancer screenings, and had not had breast cancer detected early, I might be dead.
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11-24-2013, 07:56 AM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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Originally Posted by Amanah
This is what my previous pastor preached, trust God for healing, but if you don't have the faith to the healed, then see a Doctor.
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This is pretty much where we're at. It's not a "doctors are of the devil" or even necessarily a "no doctors" doctrine. It's mainly just have faith in God, and trust in Him for your deliverance in everything. It's also a judgement call when it comes to providing medical care for others other than yourself. You may have the faith and is prepared and ready for whatever comes what may regarding your ownself, but the other person probably isn't at the same place as you, and those that you have the charge over, as in children or the elderly, you could be just putting them in an early grave.
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