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11-27-2013, 07:27 AM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
I'm not going to feel guilt for something that happened years ago. I am going to enjoy the day with my family and be thankful! There are thousands of things we can manufacture guilt for but I try not to. 
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11-27-2013, 08:45 AM
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I'm not going to feel guilt for something that happened years ago. I am going to enjoy the day with my family and be thankful! There are thousands of things we can manufacture guilt for but I try not to. |
so what you're saying is that you didn't vote for Obama?
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11-27-2013, 04:35 PM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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so what you're saying is that you didn't vote for Obama?
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Um, no that's not what I'm saying. But I've never voted for him, for the record.
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11-27-2013, 02:21 PM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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I'm not going to feel guilt for something that happened years ago. I am going to enjoy the day with my family and be thankful! There are thousands of things we can manufacture guilt for but I try not to. |
Ok, but do you feel the same about the Holocaust issue and the American slavery issue? I mean you would be able to tell all those who want to keep bringing up the Holocaust to get over it and move on, wouldn't you? Also those who bring up reparations concerning their ancestors who were once promised 30 acres and a mule, you would tell them to stop trying to make good decent people feel guilty for something that happened years ago. Right?
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11-27-2013, 03:24 PM
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Ok, but do you feel the same about the Holocaust issue and the American slavery issue? I mean you would be able to tell all those who want to keep bringing up the Holocaust to get over it and move on, wouldn't you? Also those who bring up reparations concerning their ancestors who were once promised 30 acres and a mule, you would tell them to stop trying to make good decent people feel guilty for something that happened years ago. Right?
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yes! Get over it.
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11-27-2013, 03:35 PM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
I think it's odd that everyone talks about one group taking someone else land, but forget that the other groups did it too. Indians killed each other and took each others land and food.
This sort of Human behavior has been going on for centuries
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11-27-2013, 03:49 PM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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I think it's odd that everyone talks about one group taking someone else land, but forget that the other groups did it too. Indians killed each other and took each others land and food.
This sort of Human behavior has been going on for centuries
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Do they have a celebration for any of these other groups who had their land taken from them? Do these other groups have a day of thanksgiving for a time when they and the other group were living in harmony? Then behind the facade of that bed time story you have the reality of the people being subjugated, oppressed, and exterminated? I agree this sort of human behavior has been going on for centuries, but no one has a kumbaya story making it into a celebration feast when in fact the real story was about a people having their lives ruined by the people they once shared sweet fellowship?
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11-27-2013, 03:51 PM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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Do they have a celebration for any of these other groups who had their land taken from them? Do these other groups have a day of thanksgiving for a time when they and the other group were living in harmony? Then behind the facade of that bed time story you have the reality of the people being subjugated, oppressed, and exterminated? I agree this sort of human behavior has been going on for centuries, but no one has a kumbaya story making it into a celebration feast when in fact the real story was about a people having their lives ruined by the people they once shared sweet fellowship?
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11-27-2013, 05:28 PM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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Very good Esaias-san. 
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11-27-2013, 04:38 PM
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Re: Turkeys Died To Set The White Man Free?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Do they have a celebration for any of these other groups who had their land taken from them?
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Who is "they"?
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Do these other groups have a day of thanksgiving for a time when they and the other group were living in harmony?
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Thanksgiving is an American Holiday, not a "other group" day. It is a recent invention.
If you want to start a national Holiday to celebrate something, start a petition
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Then behind the facade of that bed time story you have the reality of the people being subjugated, oppressed, and exterminated?
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Did you read anything Essias or I posted or are you just in a zone?
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I agree this sort of human behavior has been going on for centuries, but no one has a kumbaya story making it into a celebration feast when in fact the real story was about a people having their lives ruined by the people they once shared sweet fellowship?
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Like I said in the beginning, thanksgiving is NOT the celebration of Genocide or Indian wars. You said before that you were not saying that but here you are again going full circle
Those Indians HAD their lives already ruined by Disease AND by the other, stronger tribes.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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