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Old 12-11-2013, 06:39 AM
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Re: Trail Life USA excludes Mormons, JWs, & US!!!!

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My BSA pack and troop are allowing their charter to lapse 12/31, and are re-chartering 1/1/14 as a Trail Life USA troop. TL has put together a great program in an amazing space of time! These youth programs I've participated in the past six years are chartered at a local trinitarians non-denominational church that has a lot of large homeschooling families.

I was all excited until I learned that TL will make NO exceptions on their statement of faith. In the past, AHG had allowed we Oneness Pentecostals to offer a substitute SoF. TL is patterned a lot after AHG, and the SoF is IDENTICAL.

So I am to be left behind, out in the cold; I can be a volunteer but not an official leader.

Has anybody else experienced this?


I learned that TL's SoF was designed to exclude Mormons & Jehovah's Witnesses, so they are definitely uninterested in bending it for OPs. Bend it for one group, and you've got to bend it for all.

I am curious to hear how other Oneness Boy Scout leaders are handling all this, because the UPC denounced all associations with BSA after the vote in May to allow openly homosexual youth in the program beginning 1/1/14. There are hundreds of troops chartered at OP churches. What are you going to do?
I know that the Assemblies of God has the Royal Rangers program. I am surprised that UPCI does not have some type of the same program.
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:52 PM
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I know that the Assemblies of God has the Royal Rangers program. I am surprised that UPCI does not have some type of the same program.
That was my thoughts. I had a friend that was a part of that. Its sad and dissappointing all these Oneness groups are isolationists and sectarians. They could all form such a group for their young men. Most programs in the UPC seem aimed at women and girls
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That was my thoughts. I had a friend that was a part of that. Its sad and dissappointing all these Oneness groups are isolationists and sectarians. They could all form such a group for their young men. Most programs in the UPC seem aimed at women and girls
For the longest time, UPC churches have chartered BSA troops and packs. I believe at present there are over 200 such units. The BSA was formerly found to be satisfactory for oneness people to use as a youth program, considering it wasn't doctrinal, extolled a moral code we could embrace, and could be adequately staffed with spirit-filled leaders to instill a high level of trust and confidence.

Now may be the time for oneness people to join together and form a Pentecostal outdoor youth development program!
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