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12-13-2013, 05:09 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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It's not a "different Jesus" they worship. They simply have an explanation of the same Jesus we worship that is very inadequate.
I received the Holy Ghost in a Trinitarian church. Please answer, how could a "different Jesus" have to power to give anyone the Holy Ghost?
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Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; a nd so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
God gives the Holy Ghost to those that obey him and the Holy Ghost is to lead a person "into all truth".
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
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12-13-2013, 05:13 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; a nd so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
God gives the Holy Ghost to those that obey him and the Holy Ghost is to lead a person "into all truth".
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
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12-13-2013, 05:18 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; a nd so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
God gives the Holy Ghost to those that obey him and the Holy Ghost is to lead a person "into all truth".
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
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So, are you walking in all truth? Is there nothing else God can show you?
John 16:13 is simply saying that what the Spirit guides you into will be truth and not error. It's not saying that somehow in this life there will come a point in time that we will have received all the truth there is to receive.
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12-13-2013, 05:20 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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So, are you walking in all truth? Is there nothing else God can show you?
John 16:13 is simply saying that what the Spirit guides you into will be truth and not error. It's not saying that somehow in this life there will come a point in time that we will have received all the truth there is to receive.
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Hopefully headed in the right direction. You?
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12-13-2013, 05:39 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Hopefully headed in the right direction. You?
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Sure. But i don't have all truth yet.
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12-13-2013, 06:12 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Sure. But i don't have all truth yet.
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We know that, that is why we are trying to help you see a little more of it
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12-13-2013, 07:39 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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We know that, that is why we are trying to help you see a little more of it 
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So do you have all truth? What is it that I need to see? I think YOU need a little more insight yourself on just what God is expressing when he fills someone with his Spirit.
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12-13-2013, 07:41 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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12-13-2013, 08:11 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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We know that, that is why we are trying to help you see a little more of it 
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Is that so?
Are you absolutely sure that you have all truth?
I have searched for truth for years, and I am still not sure that I possess all truth, I am still searching. Yes I am still a searcher for truth, I have not arrived unto "all truth".
The Lord has shown me some truths, but do I somehow feel superior or more saved than the Trinitarians, not really, why should I? I am just a sinner saved by grace.
I love my Trinitarian brethren and I wish them to be saved, YES I know that they do not have all the truth, but then again who does?
If you have found all truth, then I am happy that you have found all truth.
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12-13-2013, 08:23 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; a nd so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
God gives the Holy Ghost to those that obey him and the Holy Ghost is to lead a person "into all truth".
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
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How long do they get? I know some Pentecostals that have believed in the Trinity for decades...and yes they spoke in tongues.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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