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Old 12-19-2013, 12:43 PM
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Re: Are Jehovahs Witnesses Saved?

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On the basis of one step doctrine have they not believed? If not why?
In keeping with the thread (although, I understand what MTD is trying to do..lol), JW's have not believed on the LORD Jesus Christ, so nope, they're not one steppers.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:51 PM
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In keeping with the thread (although, I understand what MTD is trying to do..lol), JW's have not believed on the LORD Jesus Christ, so nope, they're not one steppers.
What about the devils? They believe.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:58 PM
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What about the devils? They believe.
Ok, for clarification, one stepper means REPENTANCE & FAITH towards the Lord JESUS Christ.

Have the devils repented and put their faith in Jesus Christ?

The devils believe there is ONE God, because they know so.
Have they subjected WILIINGLY to his Lordship ergo one step?
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Old 12-19-2013, 04:14 PM
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Re: Are Jehovahs Witnesses Saved?

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Ok, for clarification, one stepper means REPENTANCE & FAITH towards the Lord JESUS Christ.

Have the devils repented and put their faith in Jesus Christ?

The devils believe there is ONE God, because they know so.
Have they subjected WILIINGLY to his Lordship ergo one step?
Isn't that two steps?
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What about the devils? They believe.
They believe there is One God. They don't believe ON the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:52 PM
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Re: Are Jehovahs Witnesses Saved?

http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/a-of-f/1.7?lang=eng

The Articles of Faith of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Chapter 1
1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

2 We believe that men will be apunished for their bown sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

3 We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all bmankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

4 We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

5 We believe that a man must be acalled of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of chands by those who are in dauthority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the fordinances thereof.

6 We believe in the same aorganization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

7 We believe in the gift of btongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

9 We believe all that God has arevealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet breveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will dreign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be erenewed and receive its paradisiacal gglory.

11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own cconscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them dworship how, where, or what they may.

12 We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

13 We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith.

Aren't these folks 3 steppers then? what makes them not saved?
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Re: Are Jehovahs Witnesses Saved?

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In keeping with the thread (although, I understand what MTD is trying to do..lol), JW's have not believed on the LORD Jesus Christ, so nope, they're not one steppers.
Why do you say they have not believed in the Lord Jesus Christ? They themselves claim he is the Son of God and they believe God raised him from the dead.

So according to that understanding why are THEY not saved?
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