Are Jehovahs Witnesses Saved?

[Blackxeas]

They're pretty much going to hell with the majority of this forum, humbly speaking.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

No one steppers want to defend the one step? From what I can tell it seems Jehovah Witnesses are more "Christian" than the Evangelicals. They (JW) take the word of God far more seriously.

Evangelical one step Trinitarians basically give a license to sin and go on with their life. JW's actually teach discipleship.

Why give Trins a pass while excluding JW?

Michael how big is that brush you just painted with? I have met and know Trins who are broken over their sin and live a life separate unto the Lord!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Ok, for clarification, one stepper means REPENTANCE & FAITH towards the Lord JESUS Christ.

Have the devils repented and put their faith in Jesus Christ?

The devils believe there is ONE God, because they know so.
Have they subjected WILIINGLY to his Lordship ergo one step?

Isn't that two steps?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Michael how big is that brush you just painted with? I have met and know Trins who are broken over their sin and live a life separate unto the Lord!

Well I realize it was broad but not as broad as you may think. I have regular discussions with Evangelicals and believe me it is SHOCKING what many of them believe.

Practically all of them say they sin every day!Its one thing to be broken over your sin its another to cease from doing it.

I have no respect for the Evangelical Faith. I realize there are some spirit filled people there and that's why I keep reaching out to them.

My point is why do people exclude JW'S from salvation but accept Trinitarians? What makes the difference?

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Well I realize it was broad but not as broad as you may think. I have regular discussions with Evangelicals and believe me it is SHOCKING what many of them believe.

Practically all of them say they sin every day!Its one thing to be broken over your sin its another to cease from doing it.

I have no respect for the Evangelical Faith. I realize there are some spirit filled people there and that's why I keep reaching out to them.

My point is why do people exclude JW'S from salvation but accept Trinitarians? What makes the difference?

Would it have anything to do with denying the deity of Christ?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Would it have anything to do with denying the deity of Christ?

Oh? So it matters about who Jesus is? They say they believe he is the son of God. They also say God created the Universe by him.

What makes the Trinitarian version of who Jesus is better than their version?

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Oh? So it matters about who Jesus is? They say they believe he is the son of God. They also say God created the Universe by him.

What makes the Trinitarian version of who Jesus is better than their version?

Once again I can't speak for all but as far as I know Trinitarians believe Christ to be God in the flesh. Do the JW's? You are correct they do believe Him to be Messiah.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Once again I can't speak for all but as far as I know Trinitarians believe Christ to be God in the flesh. Do the JW's? You are correct they do believe Him to be Messiah.

So now are you saying that we have to be correct about who Jesus is to be saved?

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So now are you saying that we have to be correct about who Jesus is to be saved?

Honestly I don't know that it is all that simple. I think we serve a big God with grace and mercy. He knows the condition of our hearts. I don't think that a perfect understanding of the Godhead is as important as our relationship with Him.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Honestly I don't know that it is all that simple. I think we serve a big God with grace and mercy. He knows the condition of our hearts. I don't think that a perfect understanding of the Godhead is as important as our relationship with Him.

Well that would be the bottom line concerning our own hope. In the meantime I think its up to someone to preach what Yeshua himself said about it.

3 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:23-24

There is something he said we have to believe about him or we will die in our sins.