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[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by n david

Well goodness, if it's posted in The Lounge, it must be true!

I'm with Miss Brattified, I find it really odd that the clip of JA calling another minister an idiot was posted publicly, but this alleged quote hasn't been. All we have thus far is a bunch of innuendo and allegations, which have supposedly been "confirmed" in The Lounge.

Note everything good or juicy is caught on camera. You know that. Fact is that if JA said it how it was reported then it was caught on tape, but the POA has been editing the sermon for sell.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jack Shephard

Note everything good or juicy is caught on camera. You know that. Fact is that if JA said it how it was reported then it was caught on tape, but the POA has been editing the sermon for sell.

But here's my problem. Outside of DA and The Lounge, this has not been mentioned....anywhere! TFT and others weighed in on the insult to the SG, and there were other tweets about that as well. Yet not one tweet about this alleged, very racist and disturbing comment. Not one.

Now, if people would tweet about JA calling another minister an idiot, don't you think they'd tweet about JA saying that kind of racial and incendiary comment? Not to mention, it would have offended many minorities who were sitting in the audience, as well as AM who has stood many times on the platform of POA and condemned any sort of racism, especially any in the church.

The complete and total absence of any kind of reference to the alleged comment makes me believe it's not true. POA may be able to scrub a DVD clean of the offending statement, but they don't control the internet.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by n david

But here's my problem. Outside of DA and The Lounge, this has not been mentioned....anywhere! TFT, Stan Cook and others weighed in on the insult to the SG, and there were other tweets about that as well. Yet not one tweet about this alleged, very racist and disturbing comment. Not one.

Now, if people would tweet about JA calling another minister a jerk, don't you think they'd tweet about JA saying that kind of racial and incendiary comment? Not to mention, it would have offended many minorities who were sitting in the audience, as well as AM who has stood many times on the platform of POA and condemned any sort of racism, especially any in the church.

The complete and total absence of any kind of reference to the alleged comment makes me believe it's not true. POA may be able to scrub a DVD clean of the offending statement, but they don't control the internet.

In the movement that is the UPCI, the POA is kind of like DC or maybe the Illuminati. They can't kill all of the internet, but if they have asked for all the videos to be removed and or deleted I am sure many would agree to do so because they don't wanna be the one that let the cat outta the bag. It could be seen as a career suicide, of sorts. Time will tell what the outcome will be. Remember a few months back when the man came out and had all these claims against LS? That didn't go anywhere. If the person truly had evidence the evidence didn't see the light of day or was swept away. The person could have lied, but might not have... Again time will tell.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jack Shephard

In the movement that is the UPCI, the POA is kind of like DC or maybe the Illuminati. They can't kill all of the internet, but if they have asked for all the videos to be removed and or deleted I am sure many would agree to do so because they don't wanna be the one that let the cat outta the bag. It could be seen as a career suicide, of sorts. Time will tell what the outcome will be. Remember a few months back when the man came out and had all these claims against LS? That didn't go anywhere. If the person truly had evidence the evidence didn't see the light of day or was swept away. The person could have lied, but might not have... Again time will tell.

"POA is kind of like DC or maybe the Illuminati."

They didn't keep DA from posting the video on YouTube...didn't keep TFT and others on Twitter from making statements about it. There is no way POA is powerful enough to keep people from tweeting about it. Look, some people are trying to defend JA's comment against SG. I doubt he'd have any kind of support if he really said what DA and The Lounge are claiming he said.

Think about what you're posting here. You're claiming that POA would be a willing participant in covering up a hugely racist statement (ALLEGED) made on its platform by a speaker at its conference.

As for the claims against LS...rubbish. There wasn't a cover up there.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by n david

"POA is kind of like DC or maybe the Illuminati."

They didn't keep DA from posting the video on YouTube...didn't keep TFT and others on Twitter from making statements about it. There is no way POA is powerful enough to keep people from tweeting about it. Look, some people are trying to defend JA's comment against SG. I doubt he'd have any kind of support if he really said what DA and The Lounge are claiming he said.

Think about what you're posting here. You're claiming that POA would be a willing participant in covering up a hugely racist statement (ALLEGED) made on its platform by a speaker at its conference.

As for the claims against LS...rubbish. There wasn't a cover up there.

DA was asked to take it down by a member of the UPC... I'm not certain if it is someone from POA. But they are attempting to make it silent. I am not suggesting that they are covering a racial remark. I was talking about the cover up of the idiot stuff. To my knowledge there isn't video of him saying the racist stuff. I am just telling you what I was told.

With regard to LS... it wasn't about a cover up insomuch as no one ever truly questioned the situation. It went away... it could have been a lie all along, but it might not have been. Who knows.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by n david

But here's my problem. Outside of DA and The Lounge, this has not been mentioned....anywhere! TFT and others weighed in on the insult to the SG, and there were other tweets about that as well. Yet not one tweet about this alleged, very racist and disturbing comment. Not one.

The person or persons who reported the statement at the lounge--were they in attendance at the session in question?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

The person or persons who reported the statement at the lounge--were they in attendance at the session in question?

[Bishop Cleatus]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

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[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

The person or persons who reported the statement at the lounge--were they in attendance at the session in question?

A former or perhaps current poster here stated that someone that was there told them about. So if this poster trusts that source and I trust that poster since I know this person then I would say it is likely that stuff was said.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jack Shephard

A former or perhaps current poster here stated that someone that was there told them about. So if this poster trusts that source and I trust that poster since I know this person then I would say it is likely that stuff was said.

It's just odd that someone would tell him this, but there not be anything about it on Twitter or FB. I mean if people were upset about JA calling SG an idiot who needs brain surgery and sent out tweets defending SG, you would think they would even be more upset over a racist comment like has been alleged.