End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Sister Alvear]

WOMEN WERE THE LAST DISCIPLES AT THE CROSS AND THE FIRST AT THE EMPTY TOMB...Women kinda seem quite important in the story of Jesus....

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

WOMEN WERE THE LAST DISCIPLES AT THE CROSS AND THE FIRST AT THE EMPTY TOMB...Women kinda seem quite important in the story of Jesus....

And no one I know denigrates women. Christianity raised the bar for women but each person has a God ordained role. Adam was created first and then Eve. That does not make women 2nd class citizens. Women are to be honored and cherished. That does not mean a woman is to usurp the authority over men. Women cannot be a Bishop or a Deacon by God inspired qualification.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pliny

And no one I know denigrates women. Christianity raised the bar for women but each person has a God ordained role. Adam was created first and then Eve. That does not make women 2nd class citizens. Women are to be honored and cherished. That does not mean a woman is to usurp the authority over men. Women cannot be a Bishop or a Deacon by God inspired qualification.

Phoebe was a deaconess...female version of deacon.

I have another question to ask of you later.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Phoebe was a deaconess...female version of deacon.

I have another question to ask of you later.

I thought we already went through this???

The word translated "deacon" simply means servant. A quick example are the "servants" that were brought to Jesus at Cana.

IMO the early church used that word to fill an official position. IMO to underscore the fact that we are all "servants" of one another. We are not to be lords over God's heritage but servants.

The passage that speaks of Phebe being a servant means simply what it says. She, like Tabitha served the church. Tabitha was raised from the dead for her service and Paul asks them to honor the service of Phebe for her service. That does not mean she held an official position in contradiction to Paul's own qualifications of the official position - that being the husband of 1 wife.

As to the other question... Ask away but be patient. I am going to be very busy for the next few days. I have a Bible study to prepare for, I am tutoring some people in electronics and preparing for a Spanish service for a church a couple hours away. I am trying to get my taxes done as well... Also, I am trying to prepare a manuscript for publication on the new birth and the transition from Jesus name baptism to the titles. I have been off AFF for some time and will probably drop off again until more time permits... I will try to answer any question you may have.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pliny

I thought we already went through this???

The word translated "deacon" simply means servant. A quick example are the "servants" that were brought to Jesus at Cana.

IMO the early church used that word to fill an official position. IMO to underscore the fact that we are all "servants" of one another. We are not to be lords over God's heritage but servants.

The passage that speaks of Phebe being a servant means simply what it says. She, like Tabitha served the church. Tabitha was raised from the dead for her service and Paul asks them to honor the service of Phebe for her service. That does not mean she held an official position in contradiction to Paul's own qualifications of the official position - that being the husband of 1 wife.

I agree that deacons are servant. Truly, that's what we all are, servants to the service of Christ. Some people want to believe that a servant is someone who is scum on the bottom of their shoes, like a slave, someone beneath them.

As to the other question... Ask away but be patient. I am going to be very busy for the next few days. I have a Bible study to prepare for, I am tutoring some people in electronics and preparing for a Spanish service for a church a couple hours away. I am trying to get my taxes done as well... Also, I am trying to prepare a manuscript for publication on the new birth and the transition from Jesus name baptism to the titles. I have been off AFF for some time and will probably drop off again until more time permits... I will try to answer any question you may have.

I'm just wondering something. What 'scriptures' were the NT churches preaching on, considering they were living in the NT time and no NT scripture had yet been written? I see where preaching was done based on things Jesus taught and instructions by the apostles to the churches, but what scriptures were preached in the NT?

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

I agree that deacons are servant. Truly, that's what we all are, servants to the service of Christ. Some people want to believe that a servant is someone who is scum on the bottom of their shoes, like a slave, someone beneath them.

I'm just wondering something. What 'scriptures' were the NT churches preaching on, considering they were living in the NT time and no NT scripture had yet been written? I see where preaching was done based on things Jesus taught and instructions by the apostles to the churches, but what scriptures were preached in the NT?

The early church used the OT. Most used the LXX (Septuagint). As the Apostles began writing those letters were passed around and read. Here are a couple examples:
(Col 4:16 KJV) And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.

(1Th 5:27 KJV) I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren.


Also, Peter speaks of Paul's writing with the assumption that everyone recognizes those writings as scripture:
(2Pe 3:16 KJV) As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


So, As mentioned above, the Bible they used was the OT. I could bring multiple examples that show that such as the Ethiopian Eunich, but I think there will be agreement with this. As the Apostles began writing they were accepted as scripture.