End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Sister Alvear]

Would we say this applies to men only:

Luke 14:26 (“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple”)

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Would we say this applies to men only:

Luke 14:26 (“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple”)

While a preacher must first be a disciple, not all disciples are preachers.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by RJR

While a preacher must first be a disciple, not all disciples are preachers.

No? Should they be?

Preacher is not one of the 5 fold ministry

Zodhaites

In the NT, except in 2Pe_2:5 (where it speaks of Noah as the herald of righteousness), the word denotes one who is employed by God in the work of proclaiming salvation (1Ti_2:7 [cf. 1Ti_2:5-6; 2Ti_1:11, where it is conjoined with apóstolos {G652}, apostle]). When both designations are used, kḗrux designates the herald according to his commission and work as a proclaimer, while apóstolos, apostle, indicates more his relationship to the one who sent him. The authority of the herald or preacher lies in the message he has to bring (2Pe_2:5), while the apostle is protected by the authority of his Lord who sends him. In 1Ti_2:7 and 2Ti_1:11, kḗrux is also conjoined with didáskalos (G1320), teacher.

Maybe this is why we fail to read the lost on a larger scale? We are led to believe only a special class of men are to preach when we should all be proclaiming the way of salvation to the Lost. Our "method" has often been whittled down to "Invite them to church to hear our preacher".

Yet most of the people that I see bringing those people to church are said to be just the lay members, non ministers who are doing most of the work of bringing souls to church.

That's messed up. We should ALL be called "the Ministry" and all employed in the work as The Ministry even if all it is is inviting someone to church, but even more we often tell THEM to teach bible studies too and "Intercede".

And yet, just because they don't stand behind the pulpit and sermonize they are not Ministers?

We are all called to serve in some capacity.

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No? Should they be?

Preacher is not one of the 5 fold ministry

Zodhaites

In the NT, except in 2Pe_2:5 (where it speaks of Noah as the herald of righteousness), the word denotes one who is employed by God in the work of proclaiming salvation (1Ti_2:7 [cf. 1Ti_2:5-6; 2Ti_1:11, where it is conjoined with apóstolos {G652}, apostle]). When both designations are used, kḗrux designates the herald according to his commission and work as a proclaimer, while apóstolos, apostle, indicates more his relationship to the one who sent him. The authority of the herald or preacher lies in the message he has to bring (2Pe_2:5), while the apostle is protected by the authority of his Lord who sends him. In 1Ti_2:7 and 2Ti_1:11, kḗrux is also conjoined with didáskalos (G1320), teacher.

Maybe this is why we fail to read the lost on a larger scale? We are led to believe only a special class of men are to preach when we should all be proclaiming the way of salvation to the Lost. Our "method" has often been whittled down to "Invite them to church to hear our preacher".

Yet most of the people that I see bringing those people to church are said to be just the lay members, non ministers who are doing most of the work of bringing souls to church.

That's messed up. We should ALL be called "the Ministry" and all employed in the work as The Ministry even if all it is is inviting someone to church, but even more we often tell THEM to teach bible studies too and "Intercede".

And yet, just because they don't stand behind the pulpit and sermonize they are not Ministers?

We are all called to serve in some capacity.

Everyone witnesses, we receive power to witness via the Holy Ghost, but not everyone is a sent preacher. If everyone was a called preacher, there would be no need for the qualifications for the ministry. Jesus also would not have named only 12 Apostles from among the disciples. All the tribes in the OT would have also been as qualified as the Levites and sons of Aaron.

Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

No term such as watchwomen in OT, only watchmen.
No OT female priest.
No female Apostles chosen by Christ
No qualifications for women deacons.
No qualifications for female bishops.

You folks would have an argument if it was not for these stubborn Biblical facts.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by RJR

Everyone witnesses, we receive power to witness via the Holy Ghost, but not everyone is a sent preacher.s.

And I would argue that we are ALL enabled to preach or teach salvation to the lost not just some guy standing behind a pulpit.