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Old 02-23-2014, 07:22 PM
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Re: Hair and Nature?

1Co 11:14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,

How long is long?
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:57 PM
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1Co 11:14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,

How long is long?

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Old 02-23-2014, 10:33 PM
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I'm thinking the way that "nature" teaches against long hair on men is men are much more likely to become bald than are women.
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1Co 11:14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,

How long is long?
I don't know, but for the record "Have long hair" is from one word

89.87 καίb; δέb: markers of a sequence of closely related events—‘and, and then.’
καίb: εἰσῆλθον ὑπὸ τὸν ὄρθρον εἰς τὸ ἱερὸν καὶ ἐδίδασκον ‘at dawn they entered the Temple and taught’ Ac 5:21.
δέb: Ἀβραὰμ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἰσαάκ, Ἰσαὰκ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἰακώβ ‘Abraham was the father of Isaac and Isaac was the father of Jacob’ Mt 1:2.


Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Vol. 1: Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: Based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition.) (788). New York: United Bible Societies.


49.25 κομάω: to wear long hair as part of one’s attire—‘to have long hair, to appear with long hair, to wear long hair.’ γυνὴ δὲ ἐὰν κομᾷ δόξα αὐτῇ ἐστιν ‘if a women wears long hair, it is a pride for her’ 1 Cor 11:15. In a number of languages it may be necessary to translate κομάω as ‘to let one’s hair grow long’ or ‘not to cut one’s hair.’

Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Vol. 1: Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: Based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition.) (526). New York: United Bible Societies.
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Re: Hair and Nature?

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What does Paul mean by "Nature"?

the NET bible commentary says

1Co 11:14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,

5 sn Paul does not mean nature in the sense of "the natural world" or "Mother Nature." It denotes "the way things are" because of God's design.

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1Co 11:14 Does not the way things are because of God's design itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,

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I believe Paul, men ought to have short hair. IMO
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I believe Paul, men ought to have short hair. IMO
How short is short?

After determining how long is long and how short is short, let's apply it equally to men and women.
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How short is short?

After determining how long is long and how short is short, let's apply it equally to men and women.
All one must do to determine how short a mans hair must be must go back to the history of the Jewish men in Jesus day. That simple really, and I do hope you don't think Jesus had long hair like pictures depict.
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Here is one of many places you can go to determine hair length in Jesus day. reg.org/articles/djhlh.html Good hunting!

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All one must do to determine how short a mans hair must be must go back to the history of the Jewish men in Jesus day. That simple really, and I do hope you don't think Jesus had long hair like pictures depict.
You're right.
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I am most certain about this, thanks for agreeing MawMaw.
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