Hair and Nature?

[justlookin]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't think Nature determines either

Nature teaches us about hair length according to scripture.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by justlookin

Nature teaches us about hair length according to scripture.

Nature--

Original Word: φύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: phuó
Phonetic Spelling: (foo'-o)
Short Definition: I grow, grow up
Definition: I grow, grow up, spring up.
Word Origin
a prim. verb
Definition
to bring forth, produce
NASB Translation
grew (2), springing (1).

So, the way ones hair grows or "springs forth" (and i swear i didn't read this before my last post) should teach us about hair length. i got lucky, most likely; it just makes sense that i should not have hair anywhere near my shoulders, even younger, i tried, because it looks bad. some other mideastern or italian guy might get away with shoulder length hair; and then there is weird al and have you ever seen that guy with the ultra long, straight brown or blonde hair? how weird is that? but a guy with black hair, a native american, perhaps? might get away with hair down to his crack.
what do you think?

[justlookin]

Originally Posted by shazeep

Nature--

Original Word: φύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: phuó
Phonetic Spelling: (foo'-o)
Short Definition: I grow, grow up
Definition: I grow, grow up, spring up.
Word Origin
a prim. verb
Definition
to bring forth, produce
NASB Translation
grew (2), springing (1).

So, the way ones hair grows or "springs forth" (and i swear i didn't read this before my last post) should teach us about hair length. i got lucky, most likely; it just makes sense that i should not have hair anywhere near my shoulders, even younger, i tried, because it looks bad. some other mideastern or italian guy might get away with shoulder length hair; and then there is weird al and have you ever seen that guy with the ultra long, straight brown or blonde hair? how weird is that? but a guy with black hair, a native american, perhaps? might get away with hair down to his crack.
what do you think?

I think it's subjective.

I've found that men who let their hair grow long (whatever long is) never 'fixes' it, it's long and it's flowing freely. On the other hand, women with long hair (whatever long is) will many times style their hair so that it's really no longer, in appearance, than women who have shorter (whatever shorter is) hair. For example, both women will expose the neck in their hair styles. So, what's the difference between the woman who has longish (whatever longish is) hair that is above the shoulders and the woman who styles her hair, though it be longer (whatever long is) so that it's appearance is the same as the woman with the shorter hair?

Here's a couple of examples, one with hair longer than the other but visually about the same.





In my subjective view, the woman's hair in the top image is more appealing. Is that nature telling me, instructing me, or is that just visually a personal preference? And would the bottom hair length be long on a man?

Back to the question of how short is short and how long is long. Or maybe the question should be what is short and what is long?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by justlookin

I think it's subjective.

I've found that men who let their hair grow long (whatever long is) never 'fixes' it, it's long and it's flowing freely. On the other hand, women with long hair (whatever long is) will many times style their hair so that it's really no longer, in appearance, than women who have shorter (whatever shorter is) hair. For example, both women will expose the neck in their hair styles. So, what's the difference between the woman who has longish (whatever longish is) hair that is above the shoulders and the woman who styles her hair, though it be longer (whatever long is) so that it's appearance is the same as the woman with the shorter hair?

Here's a couple of examples, one with hair longer than the other but visually about the same.





In my subjective view, the woman's hair in the top image is more appealing. Is that nature telling me, instructing me, or is that just visually a personal preference? And would the bottom hair length be long on a man?

Back to the question of how short is short and how long is long. Or maybe the question should be what is short and what is long?

No. See definition of what Nature means in first post.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No. See definition of what Nature means in first post.

ok, well, definitions of any word morph over time, Prax; i note your def did not encompass my def...well, maybe peripherally. the lexicon (which is prolly as bad as a new strong's ) seemed to vary...

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok, well, definitions of any word morph over time, Prax; i note your def did not encompass my def...well, maybe peripherally. the lexicon (which is prolly as bad as a new strong's ) seemed to vary...

They morph over time so we can pick and choose which ever we want?

My Lexicon is as bad as a Strongs? And you say that why?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

They morph over time so we can pick and choose which ever we want?

ah no, don't know about that--i think one should pick the def--when there are multiple possibilities--that fits the situation. Our understanding of the def of Nature didn't seem to make sense to me here (either), so i was just trying some new shoes on there. Like a "hope" = 'confident expectation' thing.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

My Lexicon is as bad as a Strongs? And you say that why?

oh, hmm, i meant the lex quote that I gave for "Nature," (i think), and i just noted that your orig def wasn't part of it? Biblehub, for what it's worth. Surely yours is better. I just found a resource for the old Strong's, interestingly enough, hmm

[justlookin]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

5 sn Paul does not mean nature in the sense of "the natural world" or "Mother Nature." It denotes "the way things are" because of God's design.

Originally Posted by justlookin

Or maybe the question should be what is short and what is long?

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No. See definition of what Nature means in first post.

What conclusion would you come to when you apply the definition you posted in the first post to the photos above? In other words, which photo is showing God's design?

We then can take the answer and apply it to these photos.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by justlookin

What conclusion would you come to when you apply the definition you posted in the first post to the photos above? In other words, which photo is showing God's design?

We then can take the answer and apply it to these photos.

The definition was applied to a word used in scriptures, not yours nor mine subjective feelings regarding pictures

[justlookin]

Originally Posted by justlookin

I think it's subjective.

I've found that men who let their hair grow long (whatever long is) never 'fixes' it, it's long and it's flowing freely. On the other hand, women with long hair (whatever long is) will many times style their hair so that it's really no longer, in appearance, than women who have shorter (whatever shorter is) hair. For example, both women will expose the neck in their hair styles. So, what's the difference between the woman who has longish (whatever longish is) hair that is above the shoulders and the woman who styles her hair, though it be longer (whatever long is) so that it's appearance is the same as the woman with the shorter hair?

Here's a couple of examples, one with hair longer than the other but visually about the same.





In my subjective view, the woman's hair in the top image is more appealing. Is that nature telling me, instructing me, or is that just visually a personal preference? And would the bottom hair length be long on a man?

Back to the question of how short is short and how long is long. Or maybe the question should be what is short and what is long?

Originally Posted by justlookin

What conclusion would you come to when you apply the definition you posted in the first post to the photos above? In other words, which photo is showing God's design?

We then can take the answer and apply it to these photos.

BUMP.