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Old 02-28-2014, 02:57 PM
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In regards to the above posts about giving and new converts, it is ridiculous.

1 Yep, we have used the baptistry this year, prayed some through and I have personally 3 Bible studies (outside of regular church services, prayer meetings and outreach ) going at this present time, with some praying around our altars, and one of them is a 70 plus year old woman.

2 You obviously do not know me, while I have been charged with a lot of accusations over the years, I cannot ever remember someone who knows even a little about me question if I was generous or not. But since you do not know me, and obviously could care less, there is no need for me to prove what I have given, even in only two months this year, amounts that you probably would not believe.

Someone can passionately disagree with a position and still have the goods.
LOL. i dont need to know you bro. im trusting you to tell us. You did. You tought some bible studies and the baptistry at your church has been used... that right there is fantastic!

im glad you have a generous spirit. God is too!

Now to the point. this forum here allows us to delve into the academic debate of things. Thats nice. I like it.

On the other side however, it doesnt really get too much into the "rubber meet road" aspect of real Christianity.

Thus my question. It wasnt an opertunity to attempt to deminish you. I am right in the same boat you are in as it relates to the questions I posed. If that deminishes you, then I have done the same to myself.... I like me (refer to Ferds theory that all forum users are at some level narcisists... LOL).

The point here is we can get all debate-eeee over what the bible says about quiet women, who can preach to whom and all that but after we conclude the debate, and we start talking about who has done what to advance the Kingdom.... who has given more to the cause of Christ... Who's actual actions have led to more people being pulled from hells inferno and deliverd to the Kingdom of God Himself..... well there is a little lady here on this forum... who has posted in this thread.... who happens to be a preacher.... that puts you and I to shame.

So we post thousands of posts but...That lady in violation of your understanding of what Paul was talking about, has left in her wake a nation exposed to the Gospel. A people saved, sanctified and on fire for God exist because she didnt SHUT UP....


I have said this before. it is worthy of repeating. My great grandmother (herself a second generation Apostolic) was an Apostolic PREACHER. based on the story of my family, If it werent for that Apostolic Lady Talker, I would not have the Holy Ghost today. I would not be saved. Nor would my son (if you are counting he is a 6th Generation Apostolic)... Nor would a whole host of my family be saved.... and God only knows how many others my Great Grandmother reached outside of her own family.

God is good. We are blessed. WE sit here in the comfortable USA and debate lady talkers from the comfort of our houses that arent locked up inside walled compounds that are needed to keep out bandits who raid and steal our stuff.... on a regular bases..... while the resident Lady Talker lives in a compound with walls to keep out bandits who still raid her home on a regular bases and still her stuff...

peace be unto you my friend.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:26 PM
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LOL. i dont need to know you bro. im trusting you to tell us. You did. You tought some bible studies and the baptistry at your church has been used... that right there is fantastic!

im glad you have a generous spirit. God is too!

Now to the point. this forum here allows us to delve into the academic debate of things. Thats nice. I like it.

On the other side however, it doesnt really get too much into the "rubber meet road" aspect of real Christianity.

Thus my question. It wasnt an opertunity to attempt to deminish you. I am right in the same boat you are in as it relates to the questions I posed. If that deminishes you, then I have done the same to myself.... I like me (refer to Ferds theory that all forum users are at some level narcisists... LOL).

The point here is we can get all debate-eeee over what the bible says about quiet women, who can preach to whom and all that but after we conclude the debate, and we start talking about who has done what to advance the Kingdom.... who has given more to the cause of Christ... Who's actual actions have led to more people being pulled from hells inferno and deliverd to the Kingdom of God Himself..... well there is a little lady here on this forum... who has posted in this thread.... who happens to be a preacher.... that puts you and I to shame.

So we post thousands of posts but...That lady in violation of your understanding of what Paul was talking about, has left in her wake a nation exposed to the Gospel. A people saved, sanctified and on fire for God exist because she didnt SHUT UP....


I have said this before. it is worthy of repeating. My great grandmother (herself a second generation Apostolic) was an Apostolic PREACHER. based on the story of my family, If it werent for that Apostolic Lady Talker, I would not have the Holy Ghost today. I would not be saved. Nor would my son (if you are counting he is a 6th Generation Apostolic)... Nor would a whole host of my family be saved.... and God only knows how many others my Great Grandmother reached outside of her own family.

God is good. We are blessed. WE sit here in the comfortable USA and debate lady talkers from the comfort of our houses that arent locked up inside walled compounds that are needed to keep out bandits who raid and steal our stuff.... on a regular bases..... while the resident Lady Talker lives in a compound with walls to keep out bandits who still raid her home on a regular bases and still her stuff...

peace be unto you my friend.
I would be interested if you have been to Brazil, or is your attempts of aggrandizement simply the means of advancing your position?
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:32 PM
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I would be interested if you have been to Brazil, or is your attempts of aggrandizement simply the means of advancing your position?
Went to Brazil in 1989? but not involved in missions. I was a heathen running from God at the time.

I have spent time on the mission field. in Guyana, Dominican Republic, Trinidad and Curacao. I also made a short church trip to Panama and Costa Rica…


but Imma dude so its all good…. except my salvation is suspect because a lady talker was involved in the salvation of my family…
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Went to Brazil in 1989? but not involved in missions. I was a heathen running from God at the time.

I have spent time on the mission field. in Guyana, Dominican Republic, Trinidad and Curacao. I also made a short church trip to Panama and Costa Rica…


but Imma dude so its all good…. except my salvation is suspect because a lady talker was involved in the salvation of my family…
Did the lady talker save you? I know a godly pastors wife who was saved in a trinitarian church. She didn't stay there, but she received it there.
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Went to Brazil in 1989? but not involved in missions. I was a heathen running from God at the time.

I have spent time on the mission field. in Guyana, Dominican Republic, Trinidad and Curacao. I also made a short church trip to Panama and Costa Rica…


but Imma dude so its all good…. except my salvation is suspect because a lady talker was involved in the salvation of my family
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

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Went to Brazil in 1989? but not involved in missions. I was a heathen running from God at the time.

I have spent time on the mission field. in Guyana, Dominican Republic, Trinidad and Curacao. I also made a short church trip to Panama and Costa Rica…


but Imma dude so its all good…. except my salvation is suspect because a lady talker was involved in the salvation of my family…
'suspect' by whom? Would one of the Rs here consider your salvation suspect as well, i wonder? surely not?
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

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Went to Brazil in 1989? but not involved in missions. I was a heathen running from God at the time.

I have spent time on the mission field. in Guyana, Dominican Republic, Trinidad and Curacao. I also made a short church trip to Panama and Costa Rica…


but Imma dude so its all good…. except my salvation is suspect because a lady talker was involved in the salvation of my family
Please document where someone has said your salvation is suspect.

If you cannot do this then you have made an untruthful assertion.
Rev. 21:8.


This has been said so many times it is pointless to state again; however, I will give it one more shot.

Everyone should seek to win the lost. Everyone should seek to be used in the gifts of the Spirit.

Many apparently cannot understand plain English. This is demonstrated by the multitudes of outright slander by implying, myself and others, who stand against women preachers somehow suspect people of not being saved or need to go back to Calvary to watch him die. This regardless of the multitudes of times the above has been stated - all should seek to win the lost. Ironically the same people who cannot understand simple English propose to elucidate scriptural principles, this is truly a tragedy.


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This fundamental lack of knowledge has been seen consistently over and over in spite of the many times it has been said that women should witness and seek to be used in the gifts of the Spirit yet still there remains a stubborn willful ignorance to the facts. We even saw earlier where she made up her own facts that are patently false - the idea that Paul would never quote from the Talmud or the writer of Corinthians was quoting the Talmud (something to that effect) is patently false because the Talmud, specifically the Mishna was not began until the end of the 2nd century or the early third century.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...50#post1301550


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One more time. All should witness, all should seek to be used of God and everyone has a place in the kingdom of God. Men are not any better than women and there is nothing more beautiful than a godly woman. Likewise, there is nothing more ugly than a woman trying to be a man or vice versa. There is a created order. Man was created first. The woman was deceived not the man. These are the arguments of Paul. The Elders, men, are tasked with feeding the flock of God - a bishop must be the husband of one wife.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...76#post1301576


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Object lesson once again. Everyone should be encouraged to witness and be used in the gifts of the Spirit. Only men, and few of them, are called to be bishops/elders feeding the flock of God.

You just cannot seem to understand fundamental concepts which is an object lesson as to why women should not teach or preach - to act as bishops/elders.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...77#post1301577


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Once again...
Everyone should witness and seek to be used in the gifts of the Spirit
. The leading of the church, the teaching and preaching - feeding God's flock is the role of a man. The fact that so many women cannot understand that basic fundamental fact is an object lesson in why women should not be allowed to do so. The feeding of the flock is to the elders (Acts 20:17; 28). These elders are the bishops that were the husbands of one wife.

To take this logic would mean that no one needs a shepherd because they can all teach some body some thing. It is this spirit precisely that Got Miriam and Aaron into trouble.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...79#post1301579



This is nothing more than an appeal to emotion while simultaneously ignoring the facts. It is dishonest at best and at worst... well... I am not allowed to say here.

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