Can A Spirit-Filled Believer Have A Demon?

justlookin · #1 03-10-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

What if a Christian gives themselves over to a demon?

That's demon influence. Lots of Christians do that.

But to be possessed by a demon, having a demon indwelling alongside the Holy Ghost isn't possible, IMO.

Disciple4life · #2 03-10-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by justlookin

That's demon influence. Lots of Christians do that.

But to be possessed by a demon, having a demon indwelling alongside the Holy Ghost isn't possible, IMO.

The Holy Ghost would leave. The demon would be happy to stay. IMO

TyronePalmer · #3 03-10-2014, 02:01 PM

I don't agree with POSESSION either, but if you watch Derek's message he goes into detail and explains the difference between, 'posession', and 'having a demon in the flesh', or being 'demonized'.

Luke · #4 03-10-2014, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TyronePalmer

I don't agree with POSESSION either, but if you watch Derek's message he goes into detail and explains the difference between, 'posession', and 'having a demon in the flesh', or being 'demonized'.

No Christian can be indwelt by a demon. If a person is saved they belong to God spirit soul and body. God is not going to cohabitate with a demon.

1Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

Michael The Disciple · #5 03-10-2014, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

No Christian can be indwelt by a demon. If a person is saved they belong to God spirit soul and body. God is not going to cohabitate with a demon.

1Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

Exactly your BODY is the temple of the Holy Ghost.

Michael The Disciple · #6 03-10-2014, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

No Christian can be indwelt by a demon. If a person is saved they belong to God spirit soul and body. God is not going to cohabitate with a demon.

1Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

Exactly your BODY is the temple of the Holy Ghost. However if one GIVES PLACE to the devil he will move in as God moves out.

Jermyn Davidson · #7 03-10-2014, 08:12 PM

I guess it depends if the "believer" is truly saved to begin with.

Not even the most liberal baptist would suggest that a person is saved because they believe their head knowledge.

TyronePalmer · #8 03-10-2014, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Exactly your BODY is the temple of the Holy Ghost. However if one GIVES PLACE to the devil he will move in as God moves out.

The scriptures tell us clearly that Paul had a thorn IN his flesh a messenger of Satan, (a demon) that buffeted or afflicted him, causing him pain, which is why he pleaded with the Lord three times to take it away from him.

2nd Corinthians 12:7-9

"And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

Yes the body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, but the body still needs to be sanctified or made holy, AFTER the Spirit of God comes to indwell us, and the soul needs to be washed, this is called the process of sanctification.

Michael The Disciple · #9 03-10-2014, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TyronePalmer

The scriptures tell us clearly that Paul had a thorn IN his flesh a messenger of Satan, (a demon) that buffeted or afflicted him, causing him pain, which is why he pleaded with the Lord three times to take it away from him.

2nd Corinthians 12:7-9

"And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

Yes the body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, but the body still needs to be sanctified or made holy, AFTER the Spirit of God comes to indwell us, and the soul needs to be washed, this is called the process of sanctification.

So my friend and Brother,

Do you believe Paul actually had a demon in his flesh? Are you sure that was not meant as a figure of speech? Was Paul himself so unsanctified he allowed a demon into his life? Is that what you are saying?

Praxeas · #10 03-11-2014, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TyronePalmer

The scriptures tell us clearly that Paul had a thorn IN his flesh a messenger of Satan, (a demon) that buffeted or afflicted him, causing him pain, which is why he pleaded with the Lord three times to take it away from him.

2nd Corinthians 12:7-9

"And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

Yes the body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, but the body still needs to be sanctified or made holy, AFTER the Spirit of God comes to indwell us, and the soul needs to be washed, this is called the process of sanctification.

Notice how he refers to the messenger of Satan as personal weaknesses or persecutions by others??

For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

The Holy Bible: English Standard Version. 2001 (2 Co 12:10). Wheaton: Standard Bible Society.