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04-14-2014, 10:02 AM
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Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
I am debating them right now on the Internet
that claim Jesus is Michael the archangel. And they
like you have given me verses where they point to it and
say to me...see right there it is talking about Jesus.
JUST LIKE YOU
And just like you...they have a theory about why
it is the scriptures they pointed out is what they say it is.
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04-14-2014, 10:04 AM
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Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
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Originally Posted by Robert Sanders
I am debating them right now on the Internet
that claim Jesus is Michael the archangel. And they
like you have given me verses where they point to it and
say to me...see right there it is talking about Jesus.
JUST LIKE YOU
And just like you...they have a theory about why
it is the scriptures they pointed out is what they say it is.
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You have ALL the answers then my friend. I will sit back and wait for others to reply.
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04-15-2014, 06:45 PM
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Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
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Originally Posted by Robert Sanders
I am debating them right now on the Internet
that claim Jesus is Michael the archangel. And they
like you have given me verses where they point to it and
say to me...see right there it is talking about Jesus.
JUST LIKE YOU
And just like you...they have a theory about why
it is the scriptures they pointed out is what they say it is.
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We know it's talking about the WORD and the word was GOD and the WORD became flesh (Jesus), That's what I said.
Need those verses again?
Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Joh 1:15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.'")
Joh 1:16 And from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace.
Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-15-2014, 06:55 PM
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Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
We know it's talking about the WORD and the word was GOD and the WORD became flesh (Jesus), That's what I said.
Need those verses again?
Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Joh 1:15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.'")
Joh 1:16 And from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace.
Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
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No I don't need you to post more verses.
I need you to prove the verses you posted
mean what you said they mean.
Pick any one, we will take them one at a time.
Post that verse.
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04-15-2014, 06:57 PM
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Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
Post the first verse you want to prove that it
means what you said it means.
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04-16-2014, 12:30 AM
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Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
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Originally Posted by Robert Sanders
No I don't need you to post more verses.
I need you to prove the verses you posted
mean what you said they mean.
Pick any one, we will take them one at a time.
Post that verse.
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I didn't say what they mean. I don't have to
The word was God, The word was made flesh. Anyone that denies that is dishonest or can't read
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Joh 1:15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.'")
Joh 1:16 And from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace.
Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-19-2014, 01:45 PM
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Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
We know it's talking about the WORD and the word was GOD and the WORD became flesh (Jesus), That's what I said.
Need those verses again?
Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Joh 1:15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.'")
Joh 1:16 And from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace.
Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
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Show us where you read, that Jesus is the WORD.
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08-19-2014, 06:44 PM
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Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
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Originally Posted by Trordfure
Show us where you read, that Jesus is the WORD.
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You just quoted me doing it. All you had to do was read vs 14-18
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-19-2014, 08:28 PM
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Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
You just quoted me doing it. All you had to do was read vs 14-18
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This in not true. If it were true,
you would show me the verse,
that contained these words "Jesus is the Word".
It is not written in the bible, "Jesus is the Word".
How come you cannot admit this?
Last edited by Trordfure; 08-19-2014 at 08:31 PM.
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08-20-2014, 12:53 AM
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Re: Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?
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Originally Posted by Trordfure
This in not true. If it were true,
you would show me the verse,
that contained these words "Jesus is the Word".
It is not written in the bible, "Jesus is the Word".
How come you cannot admit this?
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as I told you, You just quoted me quoting the verses you asked for. Do I really need to help you out here?
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Joh 1:15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.'")
Joh 1:16 And from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace.
Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
There. The topic John is talking about is Jesus Christ. The word was made flesh and that word made flesh is called Jesus in vs 17
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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