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Old 04-20-2014, 10:10 PM
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No need to applaud me Jfrog. I was raised Assembly of God and had to study for a long time to figure everything out. One thing I am certain is that the early Oneness Pentecostals (Goss and Urshan) were not scared to use any terminology to teach about their new understanding of the Godhead.

I think it was Goss who said we believe in the real tri-unity. Wow you would not hear that nowadays. Do I believe in one God? Sure with all my heart, but I also think we should be able to explain most things in a simple manner.

Let the scripture wars begin!!! Ha Ha Ha!!!
1. Natures don't pray or do anything for that matter. Persons do things. Persons are the "Actors (those who perform actions)" in our world. A nature just defines what kind of "Actor (which set of actions a particular actor can perform)" we are discussing. If I say a person with a human nature what I really mean is a person that can perform human actions.

So when you say Jesus in his human nature prayed to his divine nature, you still have the person Jesus praying to himself. Perhaps what you really mean when you said human nature prayed to divine nature is that it's perfectly okay for a single person with 2 distinct natures to pray to himself. This just doesn't sound as good because when you say the human nature prayed to the divine nature it sounds like you are denying the fact that your Jesus prays to himself. But, in oneness view he must pray to himself and there's nothing inherently wrong about that since Jesus is a very unique person having 2 distinct natures.
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1. Natures don't pray or do anything for that matter. Persons do things. Persons are the "Actors (those who perform actions)" in our world. A nature just defines what kind of "Actor (which set of actions a particular actor can perform)" we are discussing. If I say a person with a human nature what I really mean is a person that can perform human actions.

So when you say Jesus in his human nature prayed to his divine nature, you still have the person Jesus praying to himself. Perhaps what you really mean when you said human nature prayed to divine nature is that it's perfectly okay for a single person with 2 distinct natures to pray to himself. This just doesn't sound as good because when you say the human nature prayed to the divine nature it sounds like you are denying the fact that your Jesus prays to himself. But, in oneness view he must pray to himself and there's nothing inherently wrong about that since Jesus is a very unique person having 2 distinct natures.
Jfrog are you oneness or trinitarian?
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Jfrog are you oneness or trinitarian?
LOL. Anti would be a better discription.... just say'n
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LOL. Anti would be a better discription.... just say'n
Lol. I think ferd has me pegged...
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