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Old 04-22-2014, 08:49 AM
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On the cross Jesus (the man) spoke to his Father (his divinity) .

1Co 15:27    For he (God)hath put all things under his (Jesus) feet. But when he (God) saith all things are put under him, (Jesus) it is manifest that he (God) is excepted, which did put all things under him.(Jesus)

The man Jesus was praying to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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Old 04-22-2014, 05:47 PM
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1Co 15:27    For he (God)hath put all things under his (Jesus) feet. But when he (God) saith all things are put under him, (Jesus) it is manifest that he (God) is excepted, which did put all things under him.(Jesus)

The man Jesus was praying to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
So Jesus is not god?
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:54 AM
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So Jesus is not god?
The majority of those who call them self oneness are really Jesus only.

If Jesus is the Father (God ) why does he tell us he is the mediator between man and God.

Why did he tell us No man can come to Jesus except the Father draw him.

If Jesus is the Father (God) then he raised himself from the dead.

The apostles did not preach Jesus only.

On the day of Pentecost, Peter preached a message that quickened the hearts of those that heard it. That same message was then preached throughout the book of acts. That message was man killed Jesus and God raised him from the dead.
The same message was preached by Paul.

1Co 15:27    For he (God)hath put all things under his (Jesus) feet. But when he (God) saith all things are put under him, (Jesus ) it is manifest that he (God) is excepted, which did put all things under him.(Jesus)
1Co 15:28    And when all things shall be subdued unto him,(God) then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (God) that put all things under him,(Jesus ) that God may be all in all.
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:12 AM
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The majority of those who call them self oneness are really Jesus only.

If Jesus is the Father (God ) why does he tell us he is the mediator between man and God.






(there is one mediator between God and man, the man(HUMAN BEING) Christ Jesus. the mediation came with the shed blood of Christ).







Why did he tell us No man can come to Jesus except the Father draw him.






(Because Jesus was totally human and the Father would have to draw mankind to His begotten (human) son. Jesus had NO personal power to do it himself.)






If Jesus is the Father (God) then he raised himself from the dead.







(When Jesus said "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father in John 14, he went on to clarify his statement that "THE FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME". Simply put, The Father was "INSIDE" the begotten(human) son. He was the "visible image"(embodiment) of the invisible Father. GOD WAS IN CHRIST, 2 Cor. 5:19)






The apostles did not preach Jesus only.

On the day of Pentecost, Peter preached a message that quickened the hearts of those that heard it. That same message was then preached throughout the book of acts. That message was man killed Jesus and God raised him from the dead.
The same message was preached by Paul.

1Co 15:27    For he (God)hath put all things under his (Jesus) feet. But when he (God) saith all things are put under him, (Jesus ) it is manifest that he (God) is excepted, which did put all things under him.(Jesus)
1Co 15:28    And when all things shall be subdued unto him,(God) then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (God) that put all things under him,(Jesus ) that God may be all in all.






(The universal message of the gospel was not God and Jesus, But GOD IN JESUS...That is oneness...GOD (IN) JESUS)
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Old 04-23-2014, 09:06 AM
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(The universal message of the gospel was not God and Jesus, But GOD IN JESUS...That is oneness...GOD (IN) JESUS)
The spirit of God was and is not in Jesus just as it is not ( in ) you or me. The Spirit of God came upon Jesus just as it comes to those that obey his word.

Luk 1:35    And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Luk 3:22    And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

Joh 1:33    And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 1:34    And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.


Mat 12:17    That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Mat 12:18    Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.

Act 2:3    And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

Please answer Pauls teaching.
1Co 15:24   
Then cometh the end
when he (Jesus)shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

1Co 15:25    For he (Jesus) must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his (Jesus) feet.

1Co 15:26    The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


1Co 15:27    For he (God)hath put all things under his (Jesus) feet. But when he (God) saith all things are put under him, (Jesus ) it is manifest that he (God) is excepted, which did put all things under him.(Jesus)

1Co 15:28    And when all things shall be subdued unto him,(God) then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (God) that put all things under him,(Jesus ) that God may be all in all.
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(The universal message of the gospel was not God and Jesus, But GOD IN JESUS...That is oneness...GOD (IN) JESUS)
So Jesus isn't God? God was just inside Jesus? Sounds like "God and Jesus" with "God inside him"
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