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Old 04-24-2014, 12:14 PM
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I just wanted to include, and I'm sure that you'll not disagree, that "righteousness" also has to do with social justice towards the least of these (the unborn, the poor, the widows, the orphans, and the global community at large). It's far more that outward modesty and/or "dress codes".
Righteousness involves all of our actions to all people.
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Righteousness involves all of our actions to all people.
John 13:35 John 14:15. Those verses IMHO are what holiness is all about.

John 13:35
"By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

I have seen people who never cut their hair, never leave an inch of skin uncovered, and never watch a minute of TV treat their fellow man so mean its not even funny. Just sayin.
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John 13:35 John 14:15. Those verses IMHO are what holiness is all about.

John 13:35
"By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

I have seen people who never cut their hair, never leave an inch of skin uncovered, and never watch a minute of TV treat their fellow man so mean its not even funny. Just sayin.
That is because they are being conformed into the image and likeness of their religion and not the image and likeness of Christ Jesus. These individuals are not of us. Because they are not like Christ.

Holiness is a call to "incarnational living". In other words, it's a call to live in spiritual union with Jesus through the Spirit. Being like Christ in all things. Walking by the Spirit's leading in all things. Not living by religious codes of conduct.

For example, I don't believe that Jesus would shy away from a beach (or at least He hasn't convicted me about beaches yet). However, I wouldn't wear a speedo because I don't believe Jesus would wear a speedo. If I were to put on a speedo and look in the mirror, I'd not see a man who was in spiritual union with Christ. Therefore, I'd wear some modest swim trunks and perhaps even a modest shirt, especially while out of the water.

Walking by the Spirit takes a degree of surrender and common sense. Sadly, people don't know how to surrender... and common sense is even more rare. They'd rather have a list of rules so they don't have to think or seek guidance from the Spirit. And so they never experience walking as living extensions of Him. Their "holiness" only mirrors their religious tradition. Not Christ Himself.

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