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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
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Originally Posted by crakjak
It wasn't a mistake, the preacher meant what he said, and he believes what he says!!
Fine, alot of folks simply believe he is wrong, and that what he said was in extremely bad taste.
I'm sure JK had a lot of misgivings about the direction of LT, however, he never rejected his son, and I don't believe for a minute he felt like was presented in this video.
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the preacher man was WRONG for saying it and that makes it a mistake.
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05-14-2014, 10:08 PM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
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the preacher man was WRONG for saying it and that makes it a mistake.
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Yes, that is true, however, if you asked him if it was a mistake, I suspect he would say, "no". So, from my perspective, he was just wrong.
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05-14-2014, 10:13 PM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
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Yes, that is true, however, if you asked him if it was a mistake, I suspect he would say, "no". So, from my perspective, he was just wrong.
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In fairness, crakjak, you DON'T know that. That's why it's completely unproductive to address an offense in this way. It should be directed to Bro. Hoffman so he can address it--and apologize if he sees the need.
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05-14-2014, 11:09 PM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
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In fairness, crakjak, you DON'T know that. That's why it's completely unproductive to address an offense in this way. It should be directed to Bro. Hoffman so he can address it--and apologize if he sees the need.
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Hey, Bratti, hows about you apply that same principle to every politician, preacher and regular joe who is dissed on this forum?
Obama is a Christian. Please direct all slander directly to him.
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05-14-2014, 11:55 PM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
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Hey, Bratti, hows about you apply that same principle to every politician, preacher and regular joe who is dissed on this forum?
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I guess you haven't read very many of my posts through the years. If you had, you would already know that I do apply the same principles to everyone else.
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Obama is a Christian. Please direct all slander directly to him.
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I happily invite you to find my posts on President Obama and Michelle Obama. You will find that when I do disagree, I strive to disagree respectfully, and I have called others out on being ugly and disrespectful to our President. For the record, I have sent a couple of emails directly to the White House--and they were patently respectful in tone. Whether they were actually read or not is beside the point; I am in the habit of directing my disagreements to the source and doing my level best to be respectful to others.
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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05-15-2014, 12:13 AM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
lol....
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-15-2014, 07:35 AM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
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Originally Posted by Charnock
Hey, Bratti, hows about you apply that same principle to every politician, preacher and regular joe who is dissed on this forum?
Obama is a Christian. Please direct all slander directly to him.
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I guess you haven't read very many of my posts through the years. If you had, you would already know that I do apply the same principles to everyone else.
I happily invite you to find my posts on President Obama and Michelle Obama. You will find that when I do disagree, I strive to disagree respectfully, and I have called others out on being ugly and disrespectful to our President. For the record, I have sent a couple of emails directly to the White House--and they were patently respectful in tone. Whether they were actually read or not is beside the point; I am in the habit of directing my disagreements to the source and doing my level best to be respectful to others.
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I've no doubt that you bug the White House frequently, but how do you respond to AFF threads that are critical of he and the Mrs.?
Do you go all Keyboard Commando on all of those threads? Tell everyone to direct their complaints to the White House?
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05-15-2014, 03:10 PM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
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Originally Posted by Charnock
I've no doubt that you bug the White House frequently, but how do you respond to AFF threads that are critical of he and the Mrs.?
Do you go all Keyboard Commando on all of those threads? Tell everyone to direct their complaints to the White House?
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Do you?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-15-2014, 08:25 AM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
In fairness, crakjak, you DON'T know that. That's why it's completely unproductive to address an offense in this way. It should be directed to Bro. Hoffman so he can address it--and apologize if he sees the need.
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I didn't say that I "KNOW" it, said that I "suspect", which was an educated guess based on my experience and hearing his attitude and disrespect for a respected elder. And his judgment the of legacy LT and JK.
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05-14-2014, 10:43 PM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Yes, that is true, however, if you asked him if it was a mistake, I suspect he would say, "no". So, from my perspective, he was just wrong.
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If you asked him if he was wrong he would probably say no too...that does not make what he said not wrong or not a mistake.
The man is wrong. He made a mistake. He is in error. I don't see why people have a problem with that word "mistake" lol
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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