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Old 05-20-2014, 04:23 PM
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?

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It's said Jesus is fully man and fully God. It's also said we should worship God and we should not worship man.

So since Jesus is fully man we shouldn't worship him. But since he is fully God we should. I'm a little confused on if we should worship Jesus or not?
We worship a Person not a thing. We worship Him not his nature.

Jesus is a Person (God) who has both the Divine and Human natures.
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We worship a Person not a thing. We worship Him not his nature.

Jesus is a Person (God) who has both the Divine and Human natures.
So if that person wasn't the creator, the almighty, the ruler of the universe then we would worship him? Because those titles are intrsically tied to God's nature and there is no way you can say we should worship a person without claiming that person is those things.
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So if that person wasn't the creator, the almighty, the ruler of the universe then we would worship him? Because those titles are intrsically tied to God's nature and there is no way you can say we should worship a person without claiming that person is those things.
He (Person) is THE Creator because He (Person) possesses that charactoristic
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He (Person) is THE Creator because He (Person) possesses that charactoristic
Prax you must believe Jesus is not god just as strongly as you believe he is god. It's what dual nature doctrine teaches. That Jesus both is god and is not god. Until you are just as comfortable saying Jesus is not god and that Jesus shouldn't be worshipped as you are sayin he is god and he should be worshipped then your missing half of what dual nature doctrine teaches.
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Prax you must believe Jesus is not god just as strongly as you believe he is god. .
No

I believe He is both God and Man at the same time.
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No

I believe He is both God and Man at the same time.
Man is not God. Therefore you believe Jesus is both God and not God at the same time

Unless you are saying there was one man that was God....
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Man is not God. Therefore you believe Jesus is both God and not God at the same time

Unless you are saying there was one man that was God....
What does "Man is not God" mean in the context of a Divine Person who has both a Divine nature and a Human nature?

BTW Im saying a Person is both God and Man at the same time but not in the same way....didn't we do this once before?
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?

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Prax you must believe Jesus is not god just as strongly as you believe he is god. It's what dual nature doctrine teaches. That Jesus both is god and is not god. Until you are just as comfortable saying Jesus is not god and that Jesus shouldn't be worshipped as you are sayin he is god and he should be worshipped then your missing half of what dual nature doctrine teaches.
Jesus is the Godman He has always been God and always will be God. He became man and will remain man. It is not that He is part God part man. Rather He is 100% God 100% man. To say that He both is and is not God is to attempt to separate His divinity from His humanity but this not possible. It would be like trying to separate the genes received from mother and your father and yet still have a whole person.

It is not that a man became God but that God became a man and that man was God the moment of conception. He has never been anything but God yet still man at the same time.
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