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Old 06-19-2014, 10:16 AM
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You are tryinh to separate Jesus' humanity from His diety this a false view. Jesus was God and man both at the same time. It was not that Jesus was indwelt by God rather He was and is God. He is the only way.
My point is, wouldn't the man be subject to human limitations of both body and mind? As a result, wouldn't he speak as a man and offer an ethnocentric message as did Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, Nanak, and others?
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:43 AM
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My point is, wouldn't the man be subject to human limitations of both body and mind? As a result, wouldn't he speak as a man and offer an ethnocentric message as did Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, Nanak, and others?
He was also God at the same time He was man.

Are you saying He didn't mean what said or that there is a deeper meaning?
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He was also God at the same time He was man.

Are you saying He didn't mean what said or that there is a deeper meaning?
God is manifest in endless ways. God was manifest in Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Moses, Mohammed, and many others. But these were all humanity. Each speaking and interpreting the message they were given through their own cultural and socio-religious contexts.

Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." The way, the truth, and the life was also revealed in others. They too showed a path that is the only way. The only way is God.

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Old 06-20-2014, 09:40 AM
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God is manifest in endless ways. God was manifest in Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Moses, Mohammed, and many others. But these were all humanity. Each speaking and interpreting the message they were given through their own cultural and socio-religious contexts.

Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." The way, the truth, and the life was also revealed in others. They too showed a path that is the only way. The only way is God.
Jesus said HE was THE only way not A way.

The bolded sentence defies logic and is impossible to be true.

Notice that you used an indefinite article "a" and a definite "the" article to describe the same thing "way".

Indefinite articles refer to generic terms, while definite articles refre to specific terms.

You took one specific way and tried to make it generic but if it is generic it is no longer specific.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:21 AM
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Jesus said HE was THE only way not A way.

The bolded sentence defies logic and is impossible to be true.

Notice that you used an indefinite article "a" and a definite "the" article to describe the same thing "way".

Indefinite articles refer to generic terms, while definite articles refre to specific terms.

You took one specific way and tried to make it generic but if it is generic it is no longer specific.
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Jesus said HE was THE only way not A way.

The bolded sentence defies logic and is impossible to be true.

Notice that you used an indefinite article "a" and a definite "the" article to describe the same thing "way".

Indefinite articles refer to generic terms, while definite articles refre to specific terms.

You took one specific way and tried to make it generic but if it is generic it is no longer specific.
sounds good

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