What About The Children???

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

JD - Bill Clinton used military force to return a Cuban child to his parent.
The fact is that the majority of these children have left their parents to come here.
They are not coming here to be with their parents, they are coming here to try to become citizens.
We need to return these children to their parents.
They are also breaking the law.
Are we a nation of laws or do we just make it up as we go?

50,000+ children-- some with only their birth certificates, possibly some with not even that. We are being led to believe that these children wandered thousands of miles through danger and desert without their parents.

That Cuban child had a father that wanted his son in his custody.

These children-- what about these children? This is nowhere near the same situation.


Now for abortion, the Supreme Court has set the law so that abortion is legalized. We are a nation of laws and the Supreme Court of the land has spoken. Why attempt to create laws that circumvent the intent of the Supreme Court? They intended for American women to be able to have access to safe and healthy ways to kill their unborn children.

Some conservatives will go out of the way to prevent the killing of an unborn child that they don't know and probably will never know.

Now we have 50,000+ children staring us in the face, from behind bars. What do some conservatives suggest we do with these children?

They want America to wash her hands of these children. They are not our children-- but neither are the aborted ones or the ones that will be raised in horrendous environments becuase the mother was forced by circumstance (not love) to give birth and to take care them.

These children are already alive, full of promise and potential right in front of us, but these, they aren't ours.

[Jermyn Davidson]

n david,

So you don't see at all that there is a disrespective undertone that is completely laced with racial garbage in the context of your statement?

[Jermyn Davidson]

If I thought there was a way for America to return them directly to their parents, then maybe I'd be on board for it.

But then, good parents wouldn't let this happen, would they?

I am under the impression that these kids would be extremely difficult or impossible to return to their parents-- identity issues, parents moving, etc.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

If I thought there was a way for America to return them directly to their parents, then maybe I'd be on board for it.

But then, good parents wouldn't let this happen, would they?

I am under the impression that these kids would be extremely difficult or impossible to return to their parents-- identity issues, parents moving, etc.

There is a way, it's been done for decades until obama decided to ignore the law. The government has flown and bussed people back to their homeland for decades. Until now.

Again, why is there a gag order on the Border Patrol? There was a picture in the local paper a few days ago of some AZ border checkpoint with no BP agents anywhere around. The gate was open and anyone could come through at anytime. Why has DHS taken over BP duties?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

n david,

So you don't see at all that there is a disrespective undertone that is completely laced with racial garbage in the context of your statement?

If you're asking whether I don't respect obama, you're right. I do not respect him. If you're asking whether there was racial garbage in the phrase, it wasn't intentional.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

If you're asking whether I don't respect obama, you're right. I do not respect him. If you're asking whether there was racial garbage in the phrase, it wasn't intentional.

It appears intentional, given the context of the conversation.

However, I love you and believe you.

Have a good night.

[Praxeas]

JD, do you advocate opening up our boarders and allowing children from China, Philipines, Africa, Guam, Pakistan, Afghanistan and every third world nation to come here and force everyone else to baby sit them?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

That Cuban child had a father that wanted his son in his custody.

Elian also had a mother who wanted to keep him. Clinton played politics with his decision. It was a bad decision.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Now we have 50,000+ children staring us in the face, from behind bars. What do some conservatives suggest we do with these children?

They want America to wash her hands of these children. They are not our children-- but neither are the aborted ones or the ones that will be raised in horrendous environments becuase the mother was forced by circumstance (not love) to give birth and to take care them.

These children are already alive, full of promise and potential right in front of us, but these, they aren't ours.

Your analogy is absurd. Sorry to be so blunt, but it is.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

Elian also had a mother who wanted to keep him. Clinton played politics with his decision. It was a bad decision.


Your analogy is absurd. Sorry to be so blunt, but it is.

Oh well, suit yourself.

That analogy is the basis for my statement to aegsm76 about conservatives caring more the unborn then for the 50,000+ we now have a chance to influence for the good.