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07-16-2014, 12:03 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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I have seen God heal. I have felt His presence. My relationship is not based on a cultural idea, it's not based on some Pastor, it's not based on your dumb Spectral Evidence, straw man nonsense. My relationship is real, and has brought me through a lot of hard times.
It's absurd that you bash everyone's belief in God but your own. You mock and laugh at those who, like me, believe in the Bible and have a relationship with God. Yet you turn around and post "my ideas about God come from what I see and experience..." How ironic! Because my ideas and beliefs of God and His Word come from what I have both seen and personally experienced.
And who the devil are you to try and tell me it's not real?
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Show me proof of the "Healing". Not a maybe, or might have been. Solid evidence, not Spectral Evidence.
My "dumb" Spectral Evidence? (Do you even know what Spectral Evidence is?) Show me where and when!
Your Relationship is fine if you so desire to believe in something you can't prove, just don't mock me if I don't agree with your unseen premise about God and Faith.
n david, I'm not here to bash anyone. I'm here to help people who have been abused by Religion and the lies within. In all sincerity, I don't think you do enough research to understand the truths you've never heard of.
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07-16-2014, 12:32 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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My "dumb" Spectral Evidence? (Do you even know what Spectral Evidence is?) Show me where and when!
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Yes, dumb Specral Evidence....used in the Salem Witch trials where a witness claimed a witch's spirit appeared in a dream.
"Spectral evidence is a form of evidence based upon dreams and visions." I can read Wikipedia, too.
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Show me proof of the "Healing". Not a maybe, or might have been. Solid evidence, not Spectral Evidence.
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Again, no need of your dumb Spectral Evidence. No dreams or visions of witches here. And I do have specific examples of healings, but I'm not going to share them because you'll only mock and try to explain your humanistic junk into it. Since it's personal and happened with both me and my mother, I won't allow it. Multiple Dr's confirmed it and there are tests and other documents which prove that which was there miraculously disappeared.
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Your Relationship is fine if you so desire to believe in something you can't prove, just don't mock me if I don't agree with your unseen premise about God and Faith.
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It's been proven, time and again. Your blindness to it doesn't make it any less real or proven.
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n david, I'm not here to bash anyone. I'm here to help people who have been abused by Religion and the lies within.
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Pretty sure the majority here neither want nor need your "help."
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In all sincerity, I don't think you do enough research to understand the truths you've never heard of.
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How condescending and narcissistic. Every post you make is all about how your belief and opinion is better than everyone else's. Maybe I should read more Wiki articles or watch more YouTube videos, right?
I walk by faith and not by demanding proof or evidence of every little belief. In the end, all will stand before God in judgement. I'm secure in what I believe.
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07-16-2014, 12:45 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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Yes, dumb Specral Evidence....used in the Salem Witch trials where a witness claimed a witch's spirit appeared in a dream.
"Spectral evidence is a form of evidence based upon dreams and visions." I can read Wikipedia, too.
Again, no need of your dumb Spectral Evidence. No dreams or visions of witches here. And I do have specific examples of healings, but I'm not going to share them because you'll only mock and try to explain your humanistic junk into it. Since it's personal and happened with both me and my mother, I won't allow it. Just know multiple Dr's confirmed it and there are tests and other documents which prove that which was there miraculously disappeared.
It's been proven, time and again. Your blindness to it doesn't make it any less real or proven.
Pretty sure the majority here neither want nor need your "help."
How condescending and narcissistic. Every post you make is all about how your belief and opinion is better than everyone else's. Maybe I should read more Wiki articles or watch more YouTube videos, right?
I walk by faith and not by demanding proof or evidence of every little belief. In the end, all will stand before God in judgement. I'm secure in what I believe.
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Again, no proof about your so called, Miracle, and, no proof that I use Spectral Evidence to validate truth. And, there were no Witches at the Salem Witch Trials. 19 innocent people were murdered, and hundreds imprisoned over Spectral (unseen) Evidence.
You also claim your belief system is better than mine, which is obvious in your post. You call me, blind, humanistic, condescending, narcissistic, and dumb (a word not allowed on this Forum).
We are all sinners there, Mr. Righteous.
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07-16-2014, 01:37 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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Again, no proof about your so called, Miracle, and, no proof that I use Spectral Evidence to validate truth.
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I have proof. As I posted, there are Dr's notes, test results and other health-related documents. Understand, I'm not one who runs around calling everything a miracle. A friend of mine was diagnosed with cancer and went through rigorous chemo treatments. After months of treatments, the Dr's said the cancer was gone. He's been healthy now for almost two years and has had a few checkups which confirm he's cancer-free. I don't call this a miracle, but believe God gave him strength and healing through the treatments.
That which I do call miracles are things which happen without any help from medication, treatments, etc. And which have notes, test results and other docs to show it was a miracle.
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And, there were no Witches at the Salem Witch Trials. 19 innocent people were murdered, and hundreds imprisoned over Spectral (unseen) Evidence.
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I never said there were witches at the Salem Witch trial, did I? I said a witness claimed that the spirit of a witch appeared in a dream. (This per your favorite scientific source, Wikipedia)
"Spectral evidence was testimony that the accused witch's spirit (i.e. spectre) appeared to the witness in a dream or vision (for example, a black cat or wolf). The dream or vision was admitted as evidence."
Wiki Article
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You also claim your belief system is better than mine, which is obvious in your post. You call me, blind, humanistic, condescending, narcissistic, and dumb (a word not allowed on this Forum).
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Read again, "dumb" was used to describe Spectral Evidence, not you. And yes, I do believe you to be blind, humanistic, condescending and narcissistic.
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We are all sinners there, Mr. Righteous.
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Never said we weren't. Nor did I, or do I, claim to be righteous.
Last edited by n david; 07-16-2014 at 01:40 PM.
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07-16-2014, 01:52 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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I have proof. As I posted, there are Dr's notes, test results and other health-related documents. Understand, I'm not one who runs around calling everything a miracle. A friend of mine was diagnosed with cancer and went through rigorous chemo treatments. After months of treatments, the Dr's said the cancer was gone. He's been healthy now for almost two years and has had a few checkups which confirm he's cancer-free. I don't call this a miracle, but believe God gave him strength and healing through the treatments.
That which I do call miracles are things which happen without any help from medication, treatments, etc. And which have notes, test results and other docs to show it was a miracle.
I never said there were witches at the Salem Witch trial, did I? I said a witness claimed that the spirit of a witch appeared in a dream. (This per your favorite scientific source, Wikipedia)
"Spectral evidence was testimony that the accused witch's spirit (i.e. spectre) appeared to the witness in a dream or vision (for example, a black cat or wolf). The dream or vision was admitted as evidence."
Wiki Article
Read again, "dumb" was used to describe Spectral Evidence, not you. And yes, I do believe you to be blind, humanistic, condescending and narcissistic.
Never said we weren't. Nor did I, or do I, claim to be righteous.
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Another post of a Religious critic that bears no facts. You my friend, are blind to your own doings and maybes. Why not just admit that you don't know, rather than spread rumors about something that simply can't be proven.
You said, "Again, no need of your dumb Spectral Evidence. No dreams or visions of witches here." I'll say it again, there were no Witches at the Salem Witch Trials.
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07-16-2014, 02:00 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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You said, "Again, no need of your dumb Spectral Evidence. No dreams or visions of witches here." I'll say it again, there were no Witches at the Salem Witch Trials.
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem?  I never said there were witches at the trial. "No dreams or visions OF witches here." The witness stated he had a dream of the spirit of a witch.
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07-16-2014, 02:05 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem?  I never said there were witches at the trial. "No dreams or visions OF witches here."
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By you making the statement you did, you are implying that Witches WERE at the Trials.
You're NOT a Witch, but believe in Spectral Evidence, using IT to condemn the innocent just like they did.
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