Noah and the Ark

[n david]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Again, no proof about your so called, Miracle, and, no proof that I use Spectral Evidence to validate truth.

I have proof. As I posted, there are Dr's notes, test results and other health-related documents. Understand, I'm not one who runs around calling everything a miracle. A friend of mine was diagnosed with cancer and went through rigorous chemo treatments. After months of treatments, the Dr's said the cancer was gone. He's been healthy now for almost two years and has had a few checkups which confirm he's cancer-free. I don't call this a miracle, but believe God gave him strength and healing through the treatments.

That which I do call miracles are things which happen without any help from medication, treatments, etc. And which have notes, test results and other docs to show it was a miracle.

Originally Posted by NotforSale

And, there were no Witches at the Salem Witch Trials. 19 innocent people were murdered, and hundreds imprisoned over Spectral (unseen) Evidence.

I never said there were witches at the Salem Witch trial, did I? I said a witness claimed that the spirit of a witch appeared in a dream. (This per your favorite scientific source, Wikipedia)

"Spectral evidence was testimony that the accused witch's spirit (i.e. spectre) appeared to the witness in a dream or vision (for example, a black cat or wolf). The dream or vision was admitted as evidence."

Wiki Article

Originally Posted by NotforSale

You also claim your belief system is better than mine, which is obvious in your post. You call me, blind, humanistic, condescending, narcissistic, and dumb (a word not allowed on this Forum).

Read again, "dumb" was used to describe Spectral Evidence, not you. And yes, I do believe you to be blind, humanistic, condescending and narcissistic.

Originally Posted by NotforSale

We are all sinners there, Mr. Righteous.

Never said we weren't. Nor did I, or do I, claim to be righteous.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by n david

I have proof. As I posted, there are Dr's notes, test results and other health-related documents. Understand, I'm not one who runs around calling everything a miracle. A friend of mine was diagnosed with cancer and went through rigorous chemo treatments. After months of treatments, the Dr's said the cancer was gone. He's been healthy now for almost two years and has had a few checkups which confirm he's cancer-free. I don't call this a miracle, but believe God gave him strength and healing through the treatments.

That which I do call miracles are things which happen without any help from medication, treatments, etc. And which have notes, test results and other docs to show it was a miracle.

I never said there were witches at the Salem Witch trial, did I? I said a witness claimed that the spirit of a witch appeared in a dream. (This per your favorite scientific source, Wikipedia)

"Spectral evidence was testimony that the accused witch's spirit (i.e. spectre) appeared to the witness in a dream or vision (for example, a black cat or wolf). The dream or vision was admitted as evidence."

Wiki Article

Read again, "dumb" was used to describe Spectral Evidence, not you. And yes, I do believe you to be blind, humanistic, condescending and narcissistic.

Never said we weren't. Nor did I, or do I, claim to be righteous.

Another post of a Religious critic that bears no facts. You my friend, are blind to your own doings and maybes. Why not just admit that you don't know, rather than spread rumors about something that simply can't be proven.

You said, "Again, no need of your dumb Spectral Evidence. No dreams or visions of witches here." I'll say it again, there were no Witches at the Salem Witch Trials.

[n david]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

You said, "Again, no need of your dumb Spectral Evidence. No dreams or visions of witches here." I'll say it again, there were no Witches at the Salem Witch Trials.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I never said there were witches at the trial. "No dreams or visions OF witches here." The witness stated he had a dream of the spirit of a witch.

smh

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by n david

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I never said there were witches at the trial. "No dreams or visions OF witches here."

smh

By you making the statement you did, you are implying that Witches WERE at the Trials.

You're NOT a Witch, but believe in Spectral Evidence, using IT to condemn the innocent just like they did.

[n david]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

By you making the statement you did, you are implying that Witches WERE at the Trials.

You're NOT a Witch, but believe in Spectral Evidence, using IT to condemn the innocent just like they did.

1) You should read my posts again. It doesn't imply that at all. "OF" is the key word there.

2) I don't believe in Spectral Evidence as it's defined as dreams and visions, etc. I don't use dreams or visions to affirm my faith, nor do I use dreams or visions to condemn others.

3) Speaking of such, do you know what Spectral Evidence is?

The US Legal definition says: "Spectral evidence refers to a witness testimony that the accused person's spirit or spectral shape appeared to him/her witness in a dream at the time the accused person's physical body was at another location."

Based on this definition, it has nothing to do with the faith and beliefs of anyone here.

Spectral Evidence...

I haven't read any post claiming to see a person's spirit or spectral shape in a dream.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by n david

1) You should read my posts again. It doesn't imply that at all. "OF" is the key word there.

2) I don't believe in Spectral Evidence as it's defined as dreams and visions, etc. I don't use dreams or visions to affirm my faith, nor do I use dreams or visions to condemn others.

3) Speaking of such, do you know what Spectral Evidence is?

The US Legal definition says: "Spectral evidence refers to a witness testimony that the accused person's spirit or spectral shape appeared to him/her witness in a dream at the time the accused person's physical body was at another location."

Based on this definition, it has nothing to do with the faith and beliefs of anyone here.

Spectral Evidence...

I haven't read any post claiming to see a person's spirit or spectral shape in a dream.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spectral

spectral
adjective ghostly, unearthly, eerie, supernatural, weird, phantom, shadowy, uncanny, spooky (informal), insubstantial, incorporeal.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/insubstantial

1. Lacking substance or reality

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/incorporeal

1. Lacking material form or substance.

[n david]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spectral

spectral
adjective ghostly, unearthly, eerie, supernatural, weird, phantom, shadowy, uncanny, spooky (informal), insubstantial, incorporeal.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/insubstantial

1. Lacking substance or reality

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/incorporeal

1. Lacking material form or substance.

Ah, but that's not the definition of the phrase you've been using in your posts! You can break the words down and try to define to the 2nd degree (insubstantial and incorporeal), but that doesn't change the true meaning of "Spectral Evidence," which is defined as seeing a spirit or spectral shape in a dream or vision.

It would be more accurate for you to claim people's beliefs are incorporeal -- lacking material form or substance; however, to claim we're using "Spectral Evidence" is simply absurd and completely untrue. No one has claimed to see spirits in a dream.