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07-18-2014, 09:15 AM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Abiding Now
Poor Steve.
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I do not pity him, on the contrary I would like to encourage him.
He is returning to Biblical Christianity, a Christianity based on the Bible Only.
Thousands upon thousands of Christians died under the banner of "Sola Scripture" and yet today in the 21st Century we are still fighting for this principle. People who add to the Bible thru their man made traditions do not realize that they are stomping on the blood of these martyrs.
God said "You shall not add to my word" yet the ultra con simply ignore the words of God and in their smug rebellion continually add their man made traditions to the word of God.
We are to teach the Bible, the Bible, the Bible and Only the Bible.
How hard is that to understand?
I get demonize because I insist that we have to preach from the Bible, the Bible and only the Bible.
I get sent into the lowest depths of hell, because I insist that only and only the Bible should be taught.
Well what about our traditions?
What about our creeds?
What about our statements of faith?
What about our affirmation statements?
I say dump them all, throw them all into the garbage, if it is not in the Bible then get rid of it.
Some of the ultra con added their traditions like barnacles upon the church, it is time for the church to get rid of those barnacles. Time to clean up the mother ship.
I am going to keep on shouting, The Bible, The Bible, the Bible and Only the Bible.
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07-18-2014, 09:23 AM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
I do not pity him, on the contrary I would like to encourage him.
He is returning to Biblical Christianity, a Christianity based on the Bible Only.
Thousands upon thousands of Christians died under the banner of "Sola Scripture" and yet today in the 21st Century we are still fighting for this principle. People who add to the Bible thru their man made traditions do not realize that they are stomping on the blood of these martyrs.
God said "You shall not add to my word" yet the ultra con simply ignore the words of God and in their smug rebellion continually add their man made traditions to the word of God.
We are to teach the Bible, the Bible, the Bible and Only the Bible.
How hard is that to understand?
I get demonize because I insist that we have to preach from the Bible, the Bible and only the Bible.
I get sent into the lowest depths of hell, because I insist that only and only the Bible should be taught.
Well what about our traditions?
What about our creeds?
What about our statements of faith?
What about our affirmation statements?
I say dump them all, throw them all into the garbage, if it is not in the Bible then get rid of it.
Some of the ultra con added their traditions like barnacles upon the church, it is time for the church to get rid of those barnacles. Time to clean up the mother ship.
I am going to keep on shouting, The Bible, The Bible, the Bible and Only the Bible.
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I agree that we should get back to just the Word, but the inherent problem with that too is this... everyone has an opinion about how a scripture or teaching should be interpreted. Who determines who is right? When you are dealing with writings that have been translated by so many different people, and we don't even possess the ORIGINAL writings, then there is a big question about which translation to go by, which idea or teaching to believe about a certain passage and so on. Basically, you can say you teach and preach the Bible, but ultimately it will be your interpretation that you are preaching and teaching, and someone else may see it differently, and both of you may be right in some way.
For example, I remember that ILG shared a scenario a while back, and I don't remember which post, but if I can paraphrase it (maybe she can repost it here), but two men were given instructions to "draw the curtain". One man took a piece of paper, and drew a picture of the curtain. The other got up, went to the window and pulled the curtain closed. Whose interpretation of the command "draw the curtain" was right? It is all a matter of opinion.
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07-18-2014, 12:58 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
I agree that we should get back to just the Word, but the inherent problem with that too is this... everyone has an opinion about how a scripture or teaching should be interpreted. Who determines who is right? When you are dealing with writings that have been translated by so many different people, and we don't even possess the ORIGINAL writings, then there is a big question about which translation to go by, which idea or teaching to believe about a certain passage and so on. Basically, you can say you teach and preach the Bible, but ultimately it will be your interpretation that you are preaching and teaching, and someone else may see it differently, and both of you may be right in some way.
For example, I remember that ILG shared a scenario a while back, and I don't remember which post, but if I can paraphrase it (maybe she can repost it here), but two men were given instructions to "draw the curtain". One man took a piece of paper, and drew a picture of the curtain. The other got up, went to the window and pulled the curtain closed. Whose interpretation of the command "draw the curtain" was right? It is all a matter of opinion.
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Hermeneutics
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-18-2014, 04:06 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Hermeneutics
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OK - so all who study hermeneutics all come to the same agreement on all scriptures of the Bible?
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07-18-2014, 05:00 PM
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Temporary Occupant of Earth
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
OK - so all who study hermeneutics all come to the same agreement on all scriptures of the Bible?
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We wish!
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07-22-2014, 12:13 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
OK - so all who study hermeneutics all come to the same agreement on all scriptures of the Bible?
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They could
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-22-2014, 01:07 AM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
They could
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And they would, if all were being led by the Holy Spirit into all truth.
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07-18-2014, 06:49 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
I agree that we should get back to just the Word, but the inherent problem with that too is this... everyone has an opinion about how a scripture or teaching should be interpreted. Who determines who is right? When you are dealing with writings that have been translated by so many different people, and we don't even possess the ORIGINAL writings, then there is a big question about which translation to go by, which idea or teaching to believe about a certain passage and so on. Basically, you can say you teach and preach the Bible, but ultimately it will be your interpretation that you are preaching and teaching, and someone else may see it differently, and both of you may be right in some way.
For example, I remember that ILG shared a scenario a while back, and I don't remember which post, but if I can paraphrase it (maybe she can repost it here), but two men were given instructions to "draw the curtain". One man took a piece of paper, and drew a picture of the curtain. The other got up, went to the window and pulled the curtain closed. Whose interpretation of the command "draw the curtain" was right? It is all a matter of opinion.
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The correct interpretation would be the intent of the instructor. Did the person giving instruction desire a picture of the curtains to be drawn, or did they desire the curtains to be closed. While there may have been two plausible interpretations of the instruction, only one was right.
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