Are Christians Resonsible For Wars?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by jfrog

There is alot of doubt that Hitler was actually a Christian. So I don't think he really was at that time in his life.

But then again Sean, I'd say that if you went out and gunned down a bunch of people tomorrow that most would not remember you as a Christian either. Especially considering many of your non orthodox beliefs.

So while I'm 95% comfortable agreeing that hitler was not a Christian I think we all need to be honest and admit that Christianity has a habit of denouncing anyone as a Christian who does something bad.

If you are a public figure and cheat on your wife you are no longer a Christian.
If you are a public official and make a policy decision that results in someone dying then you are not a Christian.
If you are a public official and take alot of bribes then you are not a Christian.
.........

And this list goes on and on.

Amen, If I did any resemblance of that evil stuff tomorrow, I am not a Christian but a BACKSLIDER and OF THE DEVIL... There is no such thing as a Christian backslider or a Christian devil.....1 John 3:8

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.



Again, these wicked men were not following any religious tenets....they were of SATAN. They came to KILL,STEAL and DESTROY

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Sean

Amen, If I did any resemblance of that evil stuff tomorrow, I am not a Christian but a BACKSLIDER and OF THE DEVIL... There is no such thing as a Christian backslider or a Christian devil.....1 John 3:8

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.



Again, these wicked men were not following any religious tenets....they were of SATAN. They came to KILL,STEAL and DESTROY

Thanks and that's the problem I'm pointing out. A Christian by your definition can never do something horrible. It's simply impossible by definition. Then again a persons true Christian status can never really be ascertained in your view either. So since the definition is so retroactive why even bother trying to label someone as a Christian? Wouldn't the label professing Christian illuminate everything much better and then we could have God alone dictate who was a Christian on judgment day as it seems fitting for your definition of Christian?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Thanks and that's the problem I'm pointing out. A Christian by your definition can never do something horrible. It's simply impossible by definition. Then again a persons true Christian status can never really be ascertained in your view either. So since the definition is so retroactive why even bother trying to label someone as a Christian? Wouldn't the label professing Christian illuminate everything much better and then we could have God alone dictate who was a Christian on judgment day as it seems fitting for your definition of Christian?

Amen, good point.....
Actually , It is said that the Sinners gave us the name "Christian", in the 1st century. They knew these folks were the real deal....and represented Jesus well....

The New Name
"And it came about that for an entire year they met with the church, and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch." (Acts 11:23-26).

After having gone to Tarsus to get the new convert Saul, only recently a persecutor of the church himself, Barnabas returns with Saul and they work with the church at Antioch for a year. What an encouragement he must have been to Saul, for most believers were still afraid of him. Later, Barnabas and Saul (soon to be known as Paul) will travel through Asia Minor together establishing many churches in many different cities. Antioch would become their "headquarters" from where they would launch their missions and return after completing them.

It was during this year in which Barnabas and Saul are at Antioch that the disciples were first called "Christians". The disciples were followers of Christ. A disciple of Jesus is happy to wear His name. Later, Peter tells disciples to "in that name (that is, in the name "Christian" -J.Q.) let him glorify God." (1 Peter 4:16). Though the enemies of Christ may speak the name with a sneer, disciples wear it joyfully. The Lord has been sanctified in our hearts (1 Peter 3:15).

Not every believer becomes a disciple, but every disciple is a Christian. "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:12).

[Evang.Benincasa]

Good night.