Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/14

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

Oh sure, no one's come right out and said it verbatim. No con is that stupid. It's the phrases, double entendre's and hidden accusations which are being used here.

Let's recap and look at what's being suggested.

Reprobate means a person is destined for damnation. Sinner is anyone who is not a fellow believer.

Ergo...If SP's direction will destroy what his father built (wait, his father built it?); If SE is praying that SP makes a reversal; If SE believes SP will be condemned lest he repents; if ARP believes SP's direction has changed; and if SE is hoping every good saint leaves...

Obviously SE and ARP don't believe SP is a good guy and definitely not a fellow minister in Christ. He's a reprobate sinner in their eyes. They just don't want to come right out and say it, so they use other phrases to do so.

You're still jumping to a conclusion which was never stated.

You must ask the brothers you are accusing (ARP and SE), if they truly believe SP is reprobate. Even Martin Luther at his trial in Worms, Germany was given a chance to recant his writings against the Catholic Church.

I'm not saying these brothers should recant a statement they never made.

I think I beat the snot out of a dead horse on the subject concerning the ministers (who haven't change their own beliefs) who hope congregants leave to find brethren/ministry of like-mindedness, when their own pastor does change his belief.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You're still jumping to a conclusion which was never stated.

You must ask the brothers you are accusing (ARP and SE), if they truly believe SP is reprobate. Even Martin Luther at his trial in Worms, Germany was given a chance to recant his writings against the Catholic Church.

Again, they will never come right out and actually say it. It's the clever use of phrases and double entendre's you have to sort through to find the meaning.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I'm not saying these brothers should recant a statement they never made.

So posting the hope that the good members leave the church; that SP is condemned unless he repents; that he's going a different direction; praying that he makes a reversal....what do you think that means?

Seriously? Do you think those kind of statements are kind and supportive of a fellow minister? Or would you agree these kind of statements (especially the bit about being condemned unless he repents) is typically reserved for sinners and reprobates (ie people destined for damnation)?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

Again, they will never come right out and actually say it. It's the clever use of phrases and double entendre's you have to sort through to find the meaning.


So posting the hope that the good members leave the church; that SP is condemned unless he repents; that he's going a different direction; praying that he makes a reversal....what do you think that means?

Seriously? Do you think those kind of statements are kind and supportive of a fellow minister? Or would you agree these kind of statements (especially the bit about being condemned unless he repents) is typically reserved for sinners and reprobates (ie people destined for damnation)?

ATTENTION: I'm not calling Brother Pixler a reprobate.

OK, now that I have gotten that out of the way.

Can a reprobate be prayed for?