Has there ALWAYS been a true church?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ah--and you feel it is justified to apply this to a physical assembly. Gotcha.

Seriously? God has assemblies of people called to assemble together as a kingdom jural society... but those assemblies aren't "physical assemblies"...????

I really don't know how to converse with someone who rejects the basic meanings of simple words. I guess a term can just mean whatever we want it to mean.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Seriously? God has assemblies of people called to assemble together as a kingdom jural society... but those assemblies aren't "physical assemblies"...????

I really don't know how to converse with someone who rejects the basic meanings of simple words. I guess a term can just mean whatever we want it to mean.

oh, you may be completely correct there! i just read it differently--but i read everything differently i guess
how does one determine who is a 'living stone?' Is this for a man, or group of men, to determine? Can anyone really claim 'ecclesia' for another, or for that matter themselves? Personally, i have found myself included at times, and at other times excluded (mostly by matters of pride or whatever)