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Old 09-19-2014, 08:38 AM
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Re: David Bernard endorses Trinitarian book!!!

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A Baptist Preacher named David Pawson has made it far easier to understand in his book The Normal Christian Birth. He lays out Acts 2:38 the same way Apostolics do. And altho a strong Trinitarian he even teaches baptism in Jesus name. He teaches Evangelicals are wrong about receiving the Spirit at belief!

He introduced it at IHOP a few years ago and some of the ministers there accepted it. I think their Pastor even tho at first promoting it fell back into Evangelical error and quenched the holy fire.

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I remember listening to David Pawson when I was really into the IHOP Movement. Although I believe that an Apostolic or two may have infiltrated their ranks in a manner that could affect their doctrinal leanings, neither Pawson, nor anyone at IHOP ever came close to stating that a person was not saved until they spoke in tongues.

This is a key spot where Apostolics depart from scripture. Pawson never espoused this. IHOP never came close to endorsing such a twisted view of scriptural salvation.
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Re: David Bernard endorses Trinitarian book!!!

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I remember listening to David Pawson when I was really into the IHOP Movement. Although I believe that an Apostolic or two may have infiltrated their ranks in a manner that could affect their doctrinal leanings, neither Pawson, nor anyone at IHOP ever came close to stating that a person was not saved until they spoke in tongues.

This is a key spot where Apostolics depart from scripture. Pawson never espoused this. IHOP never came close to endorsing such a twisted view of scriptural salvation.
So you believe people are saved without receiving the Holy Ghost?
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Re: David Bernard endorses Trinitarian book!!!

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I remember listening to David Pawson when I was really into the IHOP Movement. Although I believe that an Apostolic or two may have infiltrated their ranks in a manner that could affect their doctrinal leanings, neither Pawson, nor anyone at IHOP ever came close to stating that a person was not saved until they spoke in tongues.

This is a key spot where Apostolics depart from scripture. Pawson never espoused this. IHOP never came close to endorsing such a twisted view of scriptural salvation.
Did you listen to this video? He makes it abundantly clear that Evangelicals teach error concerning receiving the Holy Spirit. He does allow for other initial evidence but points strongly toward the belief that all should speak in tongues.

So if you watch the video you will hear him say MANY TIMES one must repent, believe, be baptized in water and receive the Holy Spirit to be fully a Christian. He even says to be BORN AGAIN.
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