Deep Apostolic Teachers?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Good God from Zion!!!!


"Yea I say this is he who words are written in red"

You are trying to debate that the above was some how legit?

That Elder Epley shouldn't judge message in tongues?

Do you know not all New Testaments have red letter editions? So who was the prophecy for? Only the people who have red letter editions? Or since the person was "theeing, thussing, and yeaing" then the message in tongues was only for those who had red letter edition KJVs? Also what about people who don't like red letter editions because they are hard to see the words, was the message also not for them?

Since a Bible printer places the words in red then was the person really giving a message in tongues about Zondervan, or Kirkbride Bible co? because after all they are the ones who placed the letters in red. This argument is ridiculous.

No, you have not resolved my fears, you compounded them.

Brother, I'm not saying that that Bro. Epley shouldn't judge the message. However, since it concerns (or could concern) the Holy Spirit... I'm not going to judge too harshly seeing that I wasn't there.

My point was that based on the statement given, I wouldn't immediately discount a message in tongues. It would take some radical content in the rest of the message that was Scripturally or morally questionable. But the mere phrase, "Yea I say this is he whose words are written in red", isn't enough for me. We all know that within our church culture today the "red words" are used to denote the words of Jesus in our Bibles. Therefore, God could very well claim to be He who spoke the words written in red. In fact, if theologically examined, making such a statement is inherently Oneness. Because Trinitarians would regard the Holy Spirit to be a distinct person from the one who spoke the words written in red, Jesus. However, in this utterance the Spirit clearly professes to be Christ Himself through such an association. Therefore, be it legit or not... the statement is culturally relevant to our modern churches and theologically Oneness in its Christological implication. If spoken by a Trinitarian, I'd get a REAL kick out of it. God can have a rather unique sense of humor. It wouldn't be the first time I'd have heard the Spirit speak through a Trinitarian and use distinctly Oneness self descriptions and affirmations. lol

Chide me if you like... But if you truly look at it objectively... I'm telling the truth. The utterance could have said, "Yea I say this is He whose words are written in the Good Book!" We'd know that the Spirit meant. It isn't uncommon for God to condescend to our level and speak in our vernacular to clarify what He desires to say.

I don't know... maybe what I'm trying to say is too deep for you to understand and give me credit on. Perhaps we should let it go and vote that the Spirit should only be believed if it speaks in the King James English using a 1611 vernacular and lots of vibrato.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Chide me if you like... But if you truly look at it objectively... I'm telling the truth.

I can't take this conversation seriously, let alone be objective to its weird content.

Originally Posted by Aquila

The utterance could have said, "Yea I say this is He whose words are written in the Good Book!"

Or the utterance could have said, "yea I say this is he who is sick and tired of people claiming I'm the one making the ridiculous statements when they have a message in tongues."

Originally Posted by Aquila

We'd know that the Spirit meant.

Good grief man.

Originally Posted by Aquila

It isn't uncommon for God to condescend to our level and speak in our vernacular to clarify what He desires to say.

Really? Oh, so I guess when a sister stood up and said "thus saith the Lord, my people my people I love your worship, and Bubba happy birthday."

Or how about "thus saith the Lord, my people my people I love your worship, and merry Xmas."

Come on already, are we going to debate this sort of foolishness?

Originally Posted by Aquila

I don't know... maybe what I'm trying to say is too deep for you to understand and give me credit on.

Yeah, so very deep, that a good set of waders should be employed.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Perhaps we should let it go and vote that the Spirit should only be believed if it speaks in the King James English using a 1611 vernacular and lots of vibrato.

Once had a woman brought forth a message in a high screeching voice, it scared the children, caused the saints to raise an eyebrow, and sent the visitors walking towards the sanctuary exit.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I can't take this conversation seriously, let alone be objective to its weird content.

It's kinda weird, I give you that. But I'm partly serious. lol

Or the utterance could have said, "yea I say this is he who is sick and tired of people claiming I'm the one making the ridiculous statements when they have a message in tongues."

LOL! That would be hilarious. I actually heard of a man giving an interpretation that was something like this...

"Thus saith the Lord, times are hard, I know. Sometimes I don't know if I'm going to make it myself. But if you just hold on..."

When I heard this, I about lost it! When these kinds of things happen, I have to reign myself in and try to glean and find what might be of value in the interpretation. We are but flesh. No interpretation is absolutely perfect.

Good grief man.

Really? Oh, so I guess when a sister stood up and said "thus saith the Lord, my people my people I love your worship, and Bubba happy birthday."

Or how about "thus saith the Lord, my people my people I love your worship, and merry Xmas."

Come on already, are we going to debate this sort of foolishness?

LOL! Excellent points! I do agree there is a limit to what can be accepted in an interpretation. However, what if God did want to wish Bubba a happy birthday just to test your faith? (jk) lol

No, seriously. You give some excellent examples. My only point was that the reference to letters written in red isn't enough to throw out an interpretation. And take into consideration, I'm only saying this based on the single phrase given to me. I do know that God can personalize a message, condescend and use our vernacular, and can even use terms of endearment that move us to tears and worship. When I read it... I felt it wasn't enough to discard an utterance of the Spirit over. That's all. You're examples given above are far better examples of elements to be discarded as it relates to an interpretation.

Yeah, so very deep, that a good set of waders should be employed.

C'mon, please try to understand what I'm trying to say. Give me a little credit here? Please?

Once had a woman brought forth a message in a high screeching voice, it scared the children, caused the saints to raise an eyebrow, and sent the visitors walking towards the sanctuary exit.

Hmmm... if it brought fear and concern to the body... I'd be leery of it. Could be a lying spirit or a carnal saint looking for attention.