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Old 10-11-2014, 01:30 AM
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Losing gift of righteousness?

Romans 5:17 KJV

For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

When does one lose the gift of righteousness?
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Romans 5:17 KJV

For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

When does one lose the gift of righteousness?
I believe it cannot be "lost" per say, but must be forsaken by rejecting the Lordship of Christ.
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I believe it cannot be "lost" per say, but must be forsaken by rejecting the Lordship of Christ.
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I believe it cannot be "lost" per say, but must be forsaken by rejecting the Lordship of Christ.
You believe in the lordship salvation teaching?
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You believe in the lordship salvation teaching?
The first thing that the Apostles preached to those they encountered was the Lordship of Christ, his exaltation. They glorified and exalted Christ within their outreach message before telling the sinner anything else about salvation. Christ's lordship was the centerpiece of the gospel, not US the sinners.

Therefore, if his Lordship is forsaken, salvation is forsaken.
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The first thing that the Apostles preached to those they encountered was the Lordship of Christ, his exaltation. They glorified and exalted Christ within their outreach message before telling the sinner anything else about salvation. Christ's lordship was the centerpiece of the gospel, not US the sinners.

Therefore, if his Lordship is forsaken, salvation is forsaken.
Amen his Lordship WAS the centerpiece PTL.
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Romans 5:17 KJV

For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

When does one lose the gift of righteousness?
When they no longer have faith in Jesus
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Romans 5:17 KJV

For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

When does one lose the gift of righteousness?


When they are again dominated by a besetting sin....1 Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
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Re: Losing gift of righteousness?

Sean, this scriptures are something I am still piecing together.

Do you consider yourself perfect without sin in daily practice?
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Sean, this scriptures are something I am still piecing together.

Do you consider yourself perfect without sin in daily practice?




This, I believe is speaking of "besetting"(habitual) sins. They remove us from the Grace of God and put us back under the works of the flesh, to be judged by the Law. If I fall into the "daily sin" category, I am on this same path. I must keep my "old man" on the cross DAILY.

No excuse for me now. I AM free from sin.(but not sinless)
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