Mark of the beast idea

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sean

Preterism's newspaper is Josephus and any other tidbit of historical wording they can find on the internet.

Lies. I challenged you to show where i referenced Josephus to you, since you said it's all i ever said. You couldn't find one post. So please stop these lies.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Lies. I challenged you to show where i referenced Josephus to you, since you said it's all i ever said. You couldn't find one post. So please stop these lies.

LIES?

In your sites here, you use Josephus as a reference....https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...77880786,d.aWw

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...VbC3mpEfQZQ5SA


This post you commented on was not about you at all. You just took it personal. I said the "preterists" were using Josephus as a reference. Thats it.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sean

LIES?

In your sites here, you use Josephus as a reference....https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...77880786,d.aWw

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...VbC3mpEfQZQ5SA


This post you commented on was not about you at all. You just took it personal. I said the "preterists" were using Josephus as a reference. Thats it.

Now you lie about what your words were. You said that all I ever said to you was was josephus. That's what I took issue with you about. You talked about our chats on this forum. You addressed me. So, yes, lying. You spoke more about Josephus than any preterist here.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Now you lie about what your words were. You said that all I ever said to you was was josephus. That's what I took issue with you about. You talked about our chats on this forum. You addressed me. So, yes, lying. You spoke more about Josephus than any preterist here. And contrary to your falsehood, I said nothing to you about Josephus.

I addressed all of you preterists and Josephus as a whole group. Sorry if you took it personal. But obviously you do use Josephus as a reference to preterism as we can see on your sites.

You keep saying "LIE" and other such bold words to try to prejudice your followers though.
You are showing me signs of being on the ropes doctrinally.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sean

I addressed all of you preterists and Josephus as a whole group. Sorry if you took it personal. But obviously you do use Josephus as a reference to preterism as we can see on your sites.

You keep saying "LIE" and other such bold words to try to prejudice your followers though.
You are showing me signs of being on the ropes doctrinally.

YOU WERE TALKING TO ME. You said people can GOOGLE MY NAME "MFBLUME" and "JOSEPHUS" and see it. I responded say the only website that came up with mfblume and Josephus was YOUR WORDS ON THIS FORUM! lo. You said it is all I ever said TO YOU. Stop backpeddling and admit you were wrong.

It was never a matter of whether or not I mentioned Josephus ELSEWHERE. It was a matter of me and you on this forum. I engaged you on this forum more than anyone has about preterism when you said all I ever said to YOU was Josephus. That was a lie. All I ever did with YOU was talk BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE. The you'd back out due to some excuse and never answer my questions. So, enough of this nonsense. Get on with the discussion.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

YOU WERE TALKING TO ME. You said people can GOOGLE MY NAME "MFBLUME" and "JOSEPHUS" and see it. I responded say the only website that came up with mfblume and Josephus was YOUR WORDS ON THIS FORUM! lo. You said it is all I ever said TO YOU. Stop backpeddling and admit you were wrong.

It was never a matter of whether or not I mentioned Josephus ELSEWHERE. It was a matter of me and you on this forum. I engaged you on this forum more than anyone has about preterism when you said all I ever said to YOU was Josephus. That was a lie. All I ever did with YOU was talk BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE. The you'd back out due to some excuse and never answer my questions. So, enough of this nonsense. Get on with the discussion.

Mike, you are offended at me because I lump you all together. I originally said you, as in "preterists in general" or "you guys" and you told me to look up our prior posts. I surely misspoke about you with that in mind. I know some one of you was/were quoting Josephus those months. I apologize if I falsely accused you of quoting Josephus.

Just keep in mind, aside from AFF, you definitely quote Josephus in your work of preterism.

Just wondering though...are you somehow ashamed of someone thinking you are quoting Josephus at all?

Seem strange that this accusation would stir you so much.

The bottom line is, Josephus is the PRETERISTS newspaper. Along with the big imagination.

That combo is amazing when put together!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sean

Mike, you are offended at me because I lump you all together. I originally said you, as in "preterists in general" or "you guys" and you told me to look up our prior posts. I surely misspoke about you with that in mind. I know some one of you was/were quoting Josephus those months. I apologize if I falsely accused you of quoting Josephus.

Just keep in mind, aside from AFF, you definitely quote Josephus in your work of preterism.

Just wondering though...are you somehow ashamed of someone thinking you are quoting Josephus at all?

Seem strange that this accusation would stir you so much.

The bottom line is, Josephus is the PRETERISTS newspaper. Along with the big imagination.

That combo is amazing when put together!

If you were right we'd be using Josephus to you as much as we were actually using bible. Lol

You said mfblume and Josephus. Stop lying about it. Phew. Lol

[mfblume]

Sean, do you even know what a TYPE is?

By the way, I still recall you saying the last days lasted for the duration of the whole church age since the day of Pentecost until now and beyond. Then you said LAST DAY SAINTS were only today's saints whom the apostles wrote to about LAST DAYS. We don't forget these things.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sean, do you even know what a TYPE is?

By the way, I still recall you saying the last days lasted for the duration of the whole church age since the day of Pentecost until now and beyond. Then you said LAST DAY SAINTS were only today's saints whom the apostles wrote to about LAST DAYS. We don't forget these things.

Of course I know what a type is...I taught the tabernacle for over 30 years.



I believe ALL of the prophecies were for all of the church to read Mike, just certain saints would get to be in the "grand finale"....

[shag]

Sean, I cAnt seem to find much time to be on aff w long hours etc...
I'll post as I have time, every few days or when I can...
I agree w M Blume here:
http://mikeblume.com/clouds70.htm

I believe, as in the parable of the wicked vines dressers, the Lords coming in their generation was a judgement upon those that he spent most of his tine rebuking...the false shepherds of Israel, that rejected the true shepherd.

Plz answer what I have now asked 3x in the 2nd and 3rd question:




1) Please give your opinion in regard to the "comes" in Matt. 21:40-




2A) What is the purpose of God having the phrase "shortly take place", in the first verse, and "the time is near", in the 3rd verse?
B) Why did God not choose to leave out the descriptive terms in relation to the timing of things taking place?

3) Was scripture in error, and Did God lie to those 7 Asian churches when he said those things were about to take place shortly?


I spend very little time in the book of revelation, because to me there are much more important things to be doing in life, because whether I understand it or not, the bulk had to have happened within a short amount of time just as God said, because His word is true, whether I comprehend it all or not(not to mention I'm not one of the 7 in Asia 2000 yrs ago). To say that the seven churches understood something about to take place as meaning possibly thousands and thousands of years in the future is beyond ridiculous, IMO.
I believe what he said, and lack of knowing how everything took place does not make me doubt or disbelieve what He said in regard to things that were about to take place soon.
My grandma went to her grave 2 years ago, spending the last 20 yrs of her life engulfed in Baxters magazines, and following the latest headlines that supposedly should be the fullfillment of so called last days prophesy.

I'll try to reply again as I find time thru the week