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Old 11-02-2014, 09:22 AM
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The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged

Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect. Matt. 5:48

One of satans wiles is to bewitch the children of light to think they need not be free from sin to enter Heavens gates. Altho overcoming sin is not all there is to the Christian life it certainly is very important.

Most Pentecostal groups now espouse Evangelical teachings, one will never in this life overcome sin. This is very deadly thinking.

Christ Jesus will not marry a bride with sin in her life.

25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. Ephesians 5:25-27
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It's funny how I completely agree with your words, yet I know the end of this is erroneously the doctrine of OS; keeping the focus on Sin.
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It's funny how I completely agree with your words, yet I know the end of this is erroneously the doctrine of OS; keeping the focus on Sin.
What is OS? Glad you agree!
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The teaching we hear nowadays makes it sound like sin is stronger than God!

Here are wise words from the apostle John:

4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 1 John 4:4

The Creator of the Universe is in a Spirit filled Christian. That's sufficient to overcome the temptations of life.
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Are you without fault completely perfect?
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What is OS? Glad you agree!
Sorry-the doctrine of original sin. As opposed to the fact of it.
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Are you without fault completely perfect?
If I were not would that change the teaching of Christ? Would it excuse someone else if I were not? No.

If I have sin in my life when Jesus comes I will not enter Heavens gates but will be cast into Gehenna.

Only those who are entirely sanctified will be ready to meet Christ.

23And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. 1 Thess 5:23-24

Christ obviously expects this. He believes this is possible. He sees it as the norm for his servants.

7But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat? 8And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink? 9Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not. 10So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do. Luke 17:7-10

When we do all we are commanded to do we are nothing special. We are not "super spiritual" as the false teachers try to imply.

No. We are merely doing that which is our duty to do. It is expected of all and not just a few.

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Is that a yes?
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Are you without fault completely perfect?
This is expected of all. It is the very purpose of the Apostolic ministry.

27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 28Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: 29Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily. Col. 1:27-29

Paul clearly states his purpose. To present every man perfect in Christ.

Every minister who has not the same purpose is a false minister. Either one of two things is at work.

a. He is a tare sent by satan to confuse the saints and lower the standard.

b. He may be a well meaning believer in Christ who has been taught the traditions of men and accepts them. Yet he is a novice in the doctrine of Christ and jumped into the ministry for some purpose apart from the will of God.
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