Oh WAKE UP people!!

[Rudy]

Isn't Our Lord over human government? He sets kings up and sets them down. He rules in the kingdom of men.

Doesn't God appoint secular rulers?

Dan 2:21. And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:


Romans 13
Submit to Government
Obey Authorities; Love Your Neighbor; Put on Christ
1.Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

1 Peter 3:22 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
22Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

For me as long as government doesn't make us go against Our Lord's will we are only instructed to pray for them.

There is spiritual abuse and murder in the church. May we clean our own house.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Isn't Our Lord over human government? He sets kings up and sets them down. He rules in the kingdom of men.

Doesn't God appoint secular rulers?

Dan 2:21. And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:


Romans 13
Submit to Government
Obey Authorities; Love Your Neighbor; Put on Christ
1.Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

1 Peter 3:22 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
22Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

For me as long as government doesn't make us go against Our Lord's will we are only instructed to pray for them.

There is spiritual abuse and murder in the church. May we clean our own house.

Yes and the government he set up over this land is the Constitution. Certain evil men are in defiance of the government God set up for the USA and they must be smacked down.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Yes and the government he set up over this land is the Constitution. Certain evil men are in defiance of the government God set up for the USA and they must be smacked down.

Well, as long as God does the smacking.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Well, as long as God does the smacking.

So we are to sit by and do nothing and just hope God decides to smack, or do we use the authority God has given the TRUE government of the USA and be the instruments of his smacking? Who did the smacking in 1776?

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Originalist

So we are to sit by and do nothing and just hope God decides to smack, or do we use the authority God has given the TRUE government of the USA and be the instruments of his smacking? Who did the smacking in 1776?

What do you suggest we do?