Prayed For Putin's Death

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Not gonna go down that road with you, brother. A divided America would never have survived this long.

That is irrelevant to the argument as to whether or not Lincoln acted morally or legally. It is supposition to say that two large Americas would not have lasted. They probably would have shook hands and formed a continental security alliance. But again, supposition. As for Ukraine, we are so weak now militarily, morally and economically it would be suicide to try to go to war with Russia.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Originalist

That is irrelevant to the argument as to whether or not Lincoln acted morally or legally. It is supposition to say that two large Americas would not have lasted. They probably would have shook hands and formed a continental security alliance. But again, supposition. As for Ukraine, we are so weak now militarily, morally and economically it would be suicide to try to go to war with Russia.

You realize that if Lincoln had not been killed things there would probably not have been the issues with Reconstruction.
His death put the finishing touches to the North's desire for vengence.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

You realize that if Lincoln had not been killed things there would probably not have been the issues with Reconstruction.
His death put the finishing touches to the North's desire for vengence.

Actually I think Lincoln would have been impeached had he tried to implement his plan, had he lived. Plus the Reconstruction Act was not passed by congress until a full year after the war ended. The north was shocked to see former slaves still working for their former owners and the Southern economy rebounding. So they essentially said, "We've changed our minds. Lincoln was wrong. You are NOT members of the Union. You are conquered provinces. You are right, you are not in the Union". They then set out on 12 years of plunder and did everything in their power to drive a wedge between blacks and whites in the South. When the northern populace grew weary of this and the southern whites were re-enfranchised, the latter set out to disenfranchise the freed slaves because they viewed them as allies of their northern tormenters.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

You realize that if Lincoln had not been killed things there would probably not have been the issues with Reconstruction.
His death put the finishing touches to the North's desire for vengence.

Your view of the world is an obviously deep South one...

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Your view of the world is an obviously deep South one...

Friend, up until the last few years, even texts book written by pro-Lincoln scholars admitted that the Reconstruction Act was not in keeping with Lincoln's "Malice towards None" views on reconstruction and would never have been tolerated by him.

Furthermore these same texts books were very graphic in their description of the exploitation of the defeated South by carpertbagger types.

So his view is not the "deep south view".

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Friend, up until the last few years, even texts book written by pro-Lincoln scholars admitted that the Reconstruction Act was not in keeping with Lincoln's "Malice towards None" views on reconstruction and would never have been tolerated by him.

Furthermore these same texts books were very graphic in their description of the exploitation of the defeated South by carpertbagger types.

So his view is not the "deep south view".

I agree with you.
Lincoln's assassination changed how the South was treated, for the worse.